CZ porn, anyone?

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  • Czechnologist

    Concerned Citizen
    Mar 9, 2016
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    http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-usa-p-10-series-us-made/

    After several years of hard work, production of CZ pistols in in full swing at our Kansas City headquarters. Available in the full-size F, compact C and subcompact S, the P-10 family has grown greatly.

    Optic-Ready versions of each are available, as well as low-capacity versions of each variant.

    For sights, US-made P-10s feature a single tritium lamp in the front with a large orange surround and a serrated black rear.

    Optics-Ready versions ship with a blank filler plate, and plates for both the Trijicon RMR and Leupold DeltaPoint Pro are available. Also available are matching sights that allow the user to co-witness their optic dot with the irons.

    One change that happens on both the US-made and Czech-made P-10s is the switch to a swappable magazine release. With a change in geometry, the goal was to eliminate the stiffness some customers experienced as the magazine release broke in, even though it became smooth after some use. This new reversible release just requires a few minutes to swap, allowing the pistol to remain lefty-friendly.

    These US-made P-10s retain all the features that have made them a resounding success — the crisp trigger, superior ergonomics and rugged reliability that set it apart from many in the striker-fired crowd.

    The plot thickens with CZ's plans to build the P-10F and P-10S in the USA. While I'm glad to see that CZ has made a significant financial investment in the American market and has brought a lot of new jobs to their Kansas City facility, I hope they have their shit together more than Sig did when they tried to do the same thing.

    That said, the P-10F and P-10S look pretty cool and will be optics ready, if you're a fan of mounting those things on handguns. I, personally, am not but then I'm an old fart who thinks that handgun optics peaked with the advent of glow-in-the-dark night sights. ;)
     

    HoCoShooter

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    Feb 25, 2009
    3,517
    Howard County
    Nice! Wait until you shoot it. Then, you'll be really glad you didn't pass-up that deal!


    I did! Just 6 mags so far, but I love it. Feels like it was made from a single piece of steel. Gorgeous to boot. Here are the first 3 shots out of the box at 25 yards:

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    Congrats! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

    And then he'll buy two more

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    Gah. Must wait until 2019. Must wait until 2019...
     

    pilot25

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    Jul 13, 2016
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    I rented a P09 and it was big. Really big for me. I couldn't reach the slide lever with my thumb. How does its size compare to the Shadow 2?

    They didn't have a Shadow 2 or a 75 for rent but I'm going to have to find a place that does. It is clearly a perfect fit for IDPA/USPSA
     

    Racer Doug14

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    Feb 22, 2013
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    I rented a P09 and it was big. Really big for me. I couldn't reach the slide lever with my thumb. How does its size compare to the Shadow 2?

    They didn't have a Shadow 2 or a 75 for rent but I'm going to have to find a place that does. It is clearly a perfect fit for IDPA/USPSA

    The slide stop/release is far forward on almost all CZs. I have average/large hands, and can't easily reach any on CZs.
     

    HoCoShooter

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    Feb 25, 2009
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    I rented a P09 and it was big. Really big for me. I couldn't reach the slide lever with my thumb. How does its size compare to the Shadow 2?

    They didn't have a Shadow 2 or a 75 for rent but I'm going to have to find a place that does. It is clearly a perfect fit for IDPA/USPSA

    The Shadow 2 is too heavy for IDPA.
     

    fidelity

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    I know this has been posted in the thread before, and it's not even my gun, but after getting the chance to handle and shoot it yesterday, wow. I could say that it looks as good as it shoots, but others might have different aesthetic preferences. I will say that I've never handled or shot a handgun of this quality in the past. Easily the finest performing semi-automatic that I have had the pleasure to evaluate. Everything about it exuded quality. Super smooth slide rack and just a dream to put rounds on target. I can understand why the CZ Shadow is coveted. Just, wow. Thanks for sharing, Zzzzz_man.
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    pilot25

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    Jul 13, 2016
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    What is the difference between that (Shadow 1) and the Shadow 2? They look exactly the same.
     

    Czechnologist

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    Mar 9, 2016
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    I know this has been posted in the thread before, and it's not even my gun, but after getting the chance to handle and shoot it yesterday, wow. I could say that it looks as good as it shoots, but others might have different aesthetic preferences. I will say that I've never handled or shot a handgun of this quality in the past. Easily the finest performing semi-automatic that I have had the pleasure to evaluate. Everything about it exuded quality. Super smooth slide rack and just a dream to put rounds on target. I can understand why the CZ Shadow is coveted. Just, wow. Thanks for sharing, Zzzzz_man.

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    The least I could do for anyone who would let me get some trigger time with their new Tikka T1x! :D

    What is the difference between that (Shadow 1) and the Shadow 2? They look exactly the same.

    No, they really don't look anything alike. The Shadow 2 is a completely new design for CZ that's dimensionally larger and heavier than the original SP-01 based Shadow. The Shadow 2 looks more like a Tanfoglio Stock 3, which I've joked in the past about being CZ's 'revenge' for Tanfoglio copying their designs for the past 30+ years.



    The thing to keep in mind is that not all Shadow SP-01's are created equal, whereas the Shadow 2 is pretty much a factory-built production pistol. A base Shadow SP-01 goes for about $1000-1200 but some, like mine, have had extensive modifications that push the price up near $2k. CZ Custom basically took the pistol apart, polished all the internals, hand-fitted the barrel and slide, did a trigger job, installed their competition hammer, and upgraded the sights among other things. To me, the Shadow 2 offers more bang for the buck but, suffers from weight/balance inequities compared to the SP-01 Shadow. Performance-wise, there's not an appreciable difference in accuracy. They both are amazing. Where a custom SP-01 Shadow really earns its keep is in its reduced weight (almost 8oz.), enhanced balance and reduced size. In other words, I can operate the SP-01 Shadow one-handed. Everything is familiar and within easy reach. The Shadow 2, OTOH, is big and has a very long reach for DA trigger pull and I was not able to operate the slide release with my shooting hand unless I changed my grip.
     
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    pilot25

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    Jul 13, 2016
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    Thanks for the explanation and the additional PM. If you don't follow CZ closely all of that would be impossible to know.

    The few CZs I have shot I'm also not able to manipulate the slide release with my right thumb. Hands are just too small. This is a video where someone put a Canik slide release on the 75. You can fast forward to 4:44 for the slide release swap.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niWTl9T3xpc

    I know its just some guy on youtube so I'm not saying its a good idea or not. I'm guessing there are a lot of copycat parts out there as you indicated with Tangfolio. I'm not against changing parts out if they don't hinder the use and safety of the firearm. What do you think?
     

    Czechnologist

    Concerned Citizen
    Mar 9, 2016
    6,522
    Thanks for the explanation and the additional PM. If you don't follow CZ closely all of that would be impossible to know.

    The few CZs I have shot I'm also not able to manipulate the slide release with my right thumb. Hands are just too small. This is a video where someone put a Canik slide release on the 75. You can fast forward to 4:44 for the slide release swap.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niWTl9T3xpc

    I know its just some guy on youtube so I'm not saying its a good idea or not. I'm guessing there are a lot of copycat parts out there as you indicated with Tangfolio. I'm not against changing parts out if they don't hinder the use and safety of the firearm. What do you think?

    I would check with either CZ Custom or Cajun Gun Works to see if they have an extended slide stop available. They probably do:

    https://cajungunworks.com/

    https://czcustom.com/
     

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