What is BATFE gonna do now?
http://www.thestar.com.my/Tech/Tech...vice-to-make-key-gun-part-goes-on-sale-in-US/
http://www.thestar.com.my/Tech/Tech...vice-to-make-key-gun-part-goes-on-sale-in-US/
Desktop device to make key gun part goes on sale
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Brooklyn
I stand with John Locke.
Legislation is already making its way to the committee. Question is how will we counter it?
- Dec 22, 2009
- 4,759
I guess in .md chunks of aluminum will become regulated 
Venge
Active Member
"The Ghost Gunner is programmed to mill the lower receiver of an AR-15 type rifle — the key section that holds the weapon's moving parts, such as the trigger, firing pin and magazine. "
Hrm. What do they teach journalists anyway?
Hrm. What do they teach journalists anyway?
Brooklyn
I stand with John Locke.
Take a look at the proposed legislation to out law private manufacturing of firearms.. leave aside how to enforce it for now. Google atf shoe string letter. Now I ask how will we counter it..
- Feb 19, 2013
- 18,763
Group buy?
newq
101st Poptart Assault BSB
The product is kinda lame really. It only finishes a 80% receiver. It does NOT turn a piece of flat stock aluminum into a receiver. Seriously? Guys do this with little more than a hand drill and a dremel with some surprising results.
How many lowers are you going to mill? I mean 80% lowers generally hang around the $70-80 dollar mark. I have seen them as low as $40. New completed Andersons sell for $100.
That means even if you buy all your receivers at $40 you would have to produce 30 of them to see a return on investment. It just doesn't make sense. Especially when you consider there are jigs available to mill the 80% receiver for as little $200.
How many lowers are you going to mill? I mean 80% lowers generally hang around the $70-80 dollar mark. I have seen them as low as $40. New completed Andersons sell for $100.
That means even if you buy all your receivers at $40 you would have to produce 30 of them to see a return on investment. It just doesn't make sense. Especially when you consider there are jigs available to mill the 80% receiver for as little $200.
Brooklyn
I stand with John Locke.
Thats why its version 1.0.
What did your first PC cost.
Cell phone. ?
The anti crowd knows this as well.
The more public this becomes the more likely we will see legislation..
A ban on the sale of 80% lowers is also on tap.
We need to think about how to fight it..
I wish I had a simple fix...i do not.
What did your first PC cost.
Cell phone. ?
The anti crowd knows this as well.
The more public this becomes the more likely we will see legislation..
A ban on the sale of 80% lowers is also on tap.
We need to think about how to fight it..
I wish I had a simple fix...i do not.
- Feb 19, 2013
- 18,763
My thought as well. Hell, if you don't build 51% of your airplane it can't be registered as home built. Damn, I would love 80% built kits for airplanes..
TxAggie
Ultimate Member
A regular programmable mill can be had for about $2500. With it you can do more than just lowers. While this is an OK idea, it's a one trick pony.
Venge
Active Member
- Dec 22, 2009
- 4,759
+1....how quickly folks forget....my first IBM PC was $5000+ with no hard drive and a green monitor....my Apple II that preceded that was $2500 and only had an upper case keyboard......
The anti's know that....I'm sure they are looking at 3d printing as well, especially since Staples announced they are going to start offering that as a service...it's not going to be too long before we see some seriously strong carbon fiber like plastic 'inks' for those and 3d printing of guns will be just like the Saturday Night Specials of old that started all the silly gun nonsense...
Skins_Brew
loves the smell of cosmo
It is a matter of time before barrels become the regulated component in a firearm...
Venge
Active Member
CF already exists in a 3d printer. Metal sintering already exists in 3d printers.
- Dec 22, 2009
- 4,759
I thought it might but wasn't sure...I'm sure it won't be long before you can economically "print" a strong, reliable firearm in the comfort of your own home....
Z_Man
Ultimate Member
i would agree with this. isn't the arguement of having "registered" guns to be able to solve crime, ie if we find a fired round/shell casing at a crime scene we can look through the "database" and find whose gun did the shooting?
with a regulated lower reciever, you cannot tell anything, not even the caliber that was used. same thing with all guns.
this is why the registered BS is a lie, it doesn't help with jack. if you change the firing pin and the barrel on a handgun, a shell casing from the same registered pistol does not match the one on MDPS's file.
further proof that registration is not a crime deturrent, but a list to keep for the day when they feel like they can take our guns away. But you have the F***ing stupid general public who thinks that if all guns are registered you would be able to know what gun fired every bullet ever found, and we could solve all the crimes. oh... lets ask the 12 thousand people murdered with a gun last year... nope doesn't stop the crime.
TxAggie
Ultimate Member
Brooklyn
I stand with John Locke.
Any reason we need to be their research arm?
And balistics are fungable anyway. But this time let's make them do the work.
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