Muleskinner
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Fools.. that's all im saying..
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Muleskinner
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I do know their fools for pleading guilty when they committed no crime..and I know they just set a bad precedent for others who defend their lives and property with a firearm
This
At a point in time one has to look at cost. Is it crap sandwich.
Do you want to retain your guns and your wealth, or pay to fight tough and nail to the end?
JMangle
Handsome Engineer
I wonder if they'd have been OK if they just kept them in a holster or slung.
I think it's insane to think they committed a crime, but I understand why they did what they did. Mistomeners are nothing. If I caught one, I could keep working in nuclear power.
whistlersmother
Peace through strength
They pleaded guilty, so that probably has some bearing on it.
The damn thugs that invaded their private yard should have been majorly charged with something.
Pays to have like minded thugs in charge of the DA's office.
- Jan 30, 2013
- 34,099
Here's direct from the source, with video, on Greg Kelly Reports:
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/...=DM230488_06182021&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010504i0df16
Mark McCloskey to Newsmax: 'By God, I Did It; That's What the Guns Were For'
Avoiding felony gun charges, Mark and Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges Thursday, settling a legal battle over whether the gun-toting couple broke laws in holding guns as protesters broke the gate and walked through their neighborhood last year.
"He dropped all the felony charges, all the gun charges, and charged me with a crime that said I purposely placed other people in apprehension of imminent fear of physical injury — and, by God, I did it," McCloskey told Newsmax's "Greg Kelly Reports."
"That's what the guns were for. The guns were there to scare people off and make sure they didn't approach us. And that's what the guns did.
"That's what the Second Amendment was there for, and I couldn't say no to that one," he added.
McCloskey, a staunch conservative and supporter of former President Donald Trump, is running for Senate in Missouri and avoided jail time on "two felonies each that could land us four years in the slammer," he told host Greg Kelly.
"As I said on the courthouse steps, if that's a crime in Missouri, I did it, and I'll do it again," he continued, noting he is going to pay the "parking ticket, a $750 fine and that's it."
There is still a further possibility of a pardon from Missouri GOP Gov. Mike Parson.
"I would like for him to do that, but it's totally up to the governor," McCloskey added. "He has said he would, but I will leave it up to the governor. He's a great guy and he's a great governor and he's done wonderful things for Missouri."
McCloskey denounced false narratives about his legal case, particularly considering his "very diverse" neighborhood he was protecting.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/...=DM230488_06182021&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010504i0df16
Mark McCloskey to Newsmax: 'By God, I Did It; That's What the Guns Were For'
Avoiding felony gun charges, Mark and Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges Thursday, settling a legal battle over whether the gun-toting couple broke laws in holding guns as protesters broke the gate and walked through their neighborhood last year.
"He dropped all the felony charges, all the gun charges, and charged me with a crime that said I purposely placed other people in apprehension of imminent fear of physical injury — and, by God, I did it," McCloskey told Newsmax's "Greg Kelly Reports."
"That's what the guns were for. The guns were there to scare people off and make sure they didn't approach us. And that's what the guns did.
"That's what the Second Amendment was there for, and I couldn't say no to that one," he added.
McCloskey, a staunch conservative and supporter of former President Donald Trump, is running for Senate in Missouri and avoided jail time on "two felonies each that could land us four years in the slammer," he told host Greg Kelly.
"As I said on the courthouse steps, if that's a crime in Missouri, I did it, and I'll do it again," he continued, noting he is going to pay the "parking ticket, a $750 fine and that's it."
There is still a further possibility of a pardon from Missouri GOP Gov. Mike Parson.
"I would like for him to do that, but it's totally up to the governor," McCloskey added. "He has said he would, but I will leave it up to the governor. He's a great guy and he's a great governor and he's done wonderful things for Missouri."
McCloskey denounced false narratives about his legal case, particularly considering his "very diverse" neighborhood he was protecting.
MigraineMan
Defenestration Specialist
This certainly gives the McCloskeys legal-standing in a 2A challenge. I don't "know" that such a challenge is in the works, but given that Mark McCloskey has tossed his hat into the ring to run for Senator of Missouri, it wouldn't surprise me if there were additional legal actions being considered.
If giving up two (easily replaceable) firearms was the price of walking away with a fine and no prohibiting offenses, then maybe that wasn't a bad trade. Definitely cheaper, faster, easier and less hassle than fighting all the way to the Supreme Court.
I do wish that his wife hadn't pointed her pistol at folks the way she did, though. That was purely ignorant and stupid.
I do wish that his wife hadn't pointed her pistol at folks the way she did, though. That was purely ignorant and stupid.
- Jul 29, 2014
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Meh. They copped a plea. Easiest way out.
DanGuy48
Ultimate Member
I suspect this, quoted from message #187 above, is what drove this decision.
“McCloskey, … is running for Senate in Missouri and avoided jail time on "two felonies each that could land us four years in the slammer," he told host Greg Kelly.”
This would have dragged on until the election and having open felony charges against him would have absolutely killed any chances of him being elected.”
“McCloskey, … is running for Senate in Missouri and avoided jail time on "two felonies each that could land us four years in the slammer," he told host Greg Kelly.”
This would have dragged on until the election and having open felony charges against him would have absolutely killed any chances of him being elected.”
Seems like they are about as remorseful and truly sorry as many of the repeat offenders that cycle through the system. He has already bought a new rifle.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-new-gun-days-wife-surrendered-firearms.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-new-gun-days-wife-surrendered-firearms.html
Absolutely love the prosecution’s comments about the trespassers and their breaking and entering into private property. “These people were innocent people who simply made a wrong turn on their March”. Oh yeah? Was the gate with the sign already broken open? Glad to see they can still own weapons. Now wonder if the Governor will still wipe away the conviction like he said he would.
- Nov 11, 2009
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Prosecutor bought and paid for by Soros.
Or, follow me on this one here. They are an elected official and know which way the winds are blowing in their district and would like to get re-elected. Or is anti-gun. Or just thinks the McKloskey’s are a bunch of dangerous blowhards.
They are blowhards. Regardless of the Soros owned prosecutor, there are always appeals. Defense of your f’ing home is the CORNERSTONE of the 2A.
This can’t possibly be a difficult case to win.
I agree with you but would you risk your 2A for life rather than give up <$4000 in fines/guns.
Lawyer fees for the appeal would be several times that in a high profile case like this.
The governor of Missouri has officially pardoned the McCloskeys. Slate clean.
Were their guns returned?
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