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  • ironhead7544

    Active Member
    Oct 27, 2018
    188
    9mm. Carbines and pistols are available. Easy to handle. Cheap ammo, especially if you handload. Free once fired brass at the range.
     

    leomort

    Active Member
    Jul 31, 2020
    199
    Interesting subject and one worth thought, IMHO.

    What if you don't have an AR15 and not really interested in purchasing one, but have bolt action 223rem.
     

    Harrys

    Short Round
    Jul 12, 2014
    3,362
    SOMD
    Bugging out all depends on several things the main thing is your location, city, suburbs, country?. First a comprehensive plan needs to be developed. You need to have a Plan A, B, C and D. Plan your egress, ask yourself what do I do when all the roads are jammed, what are the alternatives, pipelines, power lines back roads and so on. Getting a jump and being to be the first to evacuate is your best way to survive.

    It will be just like the movies it will be a total shit storm, you will need to protect yourself and family. Regardless of caliber, type of rifle or type of pistol everyone needs to be proficient in handling and shooting guns. I recommend you take every gun and caliber you have. Have a well stocked amount of ammo of each caliber. Relying on a single caliber or a single gun type key holes you in capability. You need to think about hunting both for food and survival.

    In an emergency, when an evacuation notice is given and danger is eminent and need to leave immediately, you should be able to go with in 15 minutes.
    What do you do if your kids are not home? Have you trained them what to do? Have you set up a meeting place?

    Your bug out response or shelter in place will be determined on the type emergency. It could be incoming weather like hurricanes, tornados and snow storms just to name a few. An imminent danger, such as fires, a nuclear power plant failure or leak, major fires on a fuel tank storage farm, flooding, or just some dumb ass active shooter. You will need plans for each of the possible seniors.

    What I an getting at is there is no one stop plan or single action you can take. You will need multi plans cover a multitude of possible events. You need to have enough food and water on hand for a minimum of 3 weeks. To either shelter in place of for evacuation. If you only have one vehicle and it is small you are really screwed and your decisions on what you take become on your likely hood to survive. One of the best things you can do is always have a full tank of gas. How many of you do not have a full tank of gas right now. I always keep our vehicles full, I get down to 1/4 tank and before I go home I get it filled. You just never know when shit happens.

    I was part the Disaster Preparedness Response Team at USCG HQ when I was active duty. What can go wrong, will go wrong and you need to be prepared the best you can. Sempar Paratus
     

    leomort

    Active Member
    Jul 31, 2020
    199
    Like to ask preppers here a question. What do you guys think about forming a neighborhood watch? For instance, I could get to know the fellow neighbors in my condo unit and we could watch each others back. I know many of us here a gun enthusiast and probably have multiple handguns. Given that would you lend your neighborhood watch people your extra handguns? Since these people are unlike "gun person", perhaps loan them a revolver? Or is this a bad idea?
     

    woodline

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 8, 2017
    1,947
    Like to ask preppers here a question. What do you guys think about forming a neighborhood watch? For instance, I could get to know the fellow neighbors in my condo unit and we could watch each others back. I know many of us here a gun enthusiast and probably have multiple handguns. Given that would you lend your neighborhood watch people your extra handguns? Since these people are unlike "gun person", perhaps loan them a revolver? Or is this a bad idea?
    My take: get to know your neighbors because it’s good to be part of a community of interconnected people, not specifically for creating a neighborhood watch. By the time you get to know folks pretty well, you’ll have a pretty good idea of whether or not you’d loan them a firearm for any reason (let alone some kind of emergency).

    As far as which types of firearms I would hypothetically loan to whom, it would depend heavily on the person. Frankly if we are in a scenario where we really need to be able to count on neighbors, if I don’t already know how well they can handle firearms they are probably getting a baseball bat or perhaps a heavy snow shovel.
     

    teratos

    My hair is amazing
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    Jan 22, 2009
    59,775
    Bel Air
    Like to ask preppers here a question. What do you guys think about forming a neighborhood watch? For instance, I could get to know the fellow neighbors in my condo unit and we could watch each others back. I know many of us here a gun enthusiast and probably have multiple handguns. Given that would you lend your neighborhood watch people your extra handguns? Since these people are unlike "gun person", perhaps loan them a revolver? Or is this a bad idea?

    If you have the right neighbors. Everyone should have guns and ammo to disperse to trustworthy people they know/trust. Having extra guns is a force multiplier. Guns and ammo are also invaluable for trade. Make sure you trust the person you hand a gun to.....they may decide to take all your stuff.
     

    Sundazes

    My brain hurts
    MDS Supporter
    Nov 13, 2006
    21,301
    Arkham
    If you have the right neighbors. Everyone should have guns and ammo to disperse to trustworthy people they know/trust. Having extra guns is a force multiplier. Guns and ammo are also invaluable for trade. Make sure you trust the person you hand a gun to.....they may decide to take all your stuff.

    So true. I had a neighbor directly across the street that was hoarding MRE type stuff and was trying to sell it as part of a MLM thing. He asked why I didn't want any. I smiled and walked away. I told him I knew where it was if I needed it. He said he wouldn't be selling it. I said OK....
     

    Doctor_M

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    Having a dedicated and secure place to bug out to is important. I've got a variety of options and plenty of ammo in my dig in position and at my bug out location. I just have to worry about the trip. I'm primarily going to be worried about 2 legged predators in that situation... hunting ammo will be waiting for me if I make it to the destination. Not worried so much about food, even if we have to walk (that will be waiting for us)... focus will be getting there fast, safely, and quietly. Common AR platform and double stack 9mms for everyone... maybe a suppressed .22 just in case.
     

    leomort

    Active Member
    Jul 31, 2020
    199
    I know my neighbors loosely, we watch out for each other UPS/FedEx/Amazon packages. I would not call that knowing them well enough to trust telling them I own firearms let alone loaning them firearm. Unfortunately, I do not have a bug out location so I'd be bugging in if at all possible.

    When I lived in Indiana, we were close friends with our neighbor but they only owned a 22lr rifle to deal with raccoon/skunks/ and possums that would sometimes make pest of themselves.
     

    teratos

    My hair is amazing
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    Jan 22, 2009
    59,775
    Bel Air
    Having a dedicated and secure place to bug out to is important. I've got a variety of options and plenty of ammo in my dig in position and at my bug out location. I just have to worry about the trip. I'm primarily going to be worried about 2 legged predators in that situation... hunting ammo will be waiting for me if I make it to the destination. Not worried so much about food, even if we have to walk (that will be waiting for us)... focus will be getting there fast, safely, and quietly. Common AR platform and double stack 9mms for everyone... maybe a suppressed .22 just in case.

    I have a group and a couple of places. We have a loose plan.
     
    Not a caliber but a bore...with the exception of reaching out and touching someone far away, a 12 gauge would be what I would select if I was only allowed 1 firearm. Hunting? Yep for just about anything that walks, flies (or swims) in North America... Self Defense? Yep sports? Yep clays and skeet (are they the same thing?)

    I've killed a lot of game and birds and broken a lot of clay with my 12 bores...
     
    May 13, 2005
    2,769
    I know where they keep the keys to the nuclear powered sub at the secret underground sub base. I can only take beaitiful twentysomething strippers, acoustic sensor operators, good chefs and nuclear engineers tho.

    Seriously tho, sit tight as long as society and rule of law exist and condense into trusted circles that are arranged prior to bad things happening, then bug out to bunker site A, B or C with potential cache contingencies preplaced. If that's compromised vehicle as deep as possible to carry as much as possible, then foot based and survivorman living. G

    Gun/caliber selection secondary (but irreplacible) to ISRT things like NV, thermal, solar recharging quiet drone, solar charging for lights and mapping solutions, portable seismic sensor perimiter detection etc. These are game changers that tip the scales in your favor if you know how to employ them.

    Caliber possibilities for one choice would be 5.7 or 556 for east, maybe 556 or 762 for goelocations that have longer ranges, however longer ranges work both ways. A must have is an additional ridiculously quiet supressed 22lr or 9mm if that's not part of the primary pair. Sound and the related exposure ( or visual or fire etc)will kill you quicker than anything else by drawing in others.

    Not to even mention meds, filtration, minimal power for your gadgets via solar etc

    Either the plan is to remain unseen and choose targets or strong overwhelming defense and project force as required to support your new warlord army.

    Just finished consulting with some folks on their contingency planning needs, and it really comes down to how deep down the rabbit hole you want to go, where you plan to be and what level of experience and capability your group possesses.
     

    Harrys

    Short Round
    Jul 12, 2014
    3,362
    SOMD
    The most important thing about a universal single caliber is whatever you have and that you have a lot of it.
     

    Ponder_MD

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 9, 2020
    4,559
    Maryland
    Like to ask preppers here a question. What do you guys think about forming a neighborhood watch? For instance, I could get to know the fellow neighbors in my condo unit and we could watch each others back. I know many of us here a gun enthusiast and probably have multiple handguns. Given that would you lend your neighborhood watch people your extra handguns? Since these people are unlike "gun person", perhaps loan them a revolver? Or is this a bad idea?

    Ugh. I've gone round and round in my head about this.

    There's exactly one guy in my neighborhood that I would trust to join up with. The rest are unreliable. Some are downright hostile Socialists. (This is Maryland, after all.) I'd have to kill half of my neighbors just to put together a neighborhood watch that wouldn't murder me in my sleep or hand me over to Biden's Gestapo.

    Charlie Maloney has a sign on his website: "Beware the man with only one gun."

    I simply can't afford nor can I be bothered to stockpile 20 different calibers of ammunition for every conceivable circumstance. I keep a shotgun for intimate encounters and .30-06 for long distance phone calls.

    Within those two calibers there are many options of ammo available to cover many different situations.
     

    Biggfoot44

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 2, 2009
    32,881
    Alamo 1.0 may have been eventually overwhelmed , but they did get priority seating in Valhalla .
     

    Harrys

    Short Round
    Jul 12, 2014
    3,362
    SOMD
    Ugh. I've gone round and round in my head about this.

    There's exactly one guy in my neighborhood that I would trust to join up with. The rest are unreliable. Some are downright hostile Socialists. (This is Maryland, after all.) I'd have to kill half of my neighbors just to put together a neighborhood watch that wouldn't murder me in my sleep or hand me over to Biden's Gestapo.

    Charlie Maloney has a sign on his website: "Beware the man with only one gun."

    I simply can't afford nor can I be bothered to stockpile 20 different calibers of ammunition for every conceivable circumstance. I keep a shotgun for intimate encounters and .30-06 for long distance phone calls.

    Within those two calibers there are many options of ammo available to cover many different situations.

    Neighborhood watches are a joke, by time the officers get on scene the thugs are gone. Besides all the laws are against you in MD thay protect the thugs and not you.

    The other thing I do not want people in my house that I do not know for meetings. Based on my neighbors there is only one other that has a gun(s).

    I have several calibers from 22s for DA wife, 40 S&W CCW, 30/30, 45/70, .500 S&W and 12 gauge covers all my bases.

    Remember always keep chicken wire, bailing wire and bricks on hand.
     

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