Squib - and how to deal with it.
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- Aug 17, 2011
- 26,177
Been lucky, only squibs I've ever had were with the .50Beo - had a batch of handloads that the powder charge got dampened on (believe I pressed those cases into service w/out letting them fully dry). Didn't fully obturate the base in the bore, plated rounds, so I just used the antenna off my truck to knock them out.
Worked out quite well, in my case.
Worked out quite well, in my case.
wow. lucky.
Had a guy next to me last year at BRGC have a squib, also lucky the bullet didn't go far enough into the barrel to let him chamber another cartridge.
- Aug 17, 2011
- 26,177
With the .50Beo, a squib is definitely noticeable - no recoil, no blast, no ejection. Makes it all too obvious that something is amiss.
After that, I stopped using the sonic tank for cases and went to dry tumbling. Squibs are only dangerous when the shooter doesn't catch on to them.
After that, I stopped using the sonic tank for cases and went to dry tumbling. Squibs are only dangerous when the shooter doesn't catch on to them.
At the range, keep the firearm pointed down range and do whatever comes next. Whatever that is.
Under fire, shoot through it and hope for the best. Because that's the only chance you have of killing the threat in front of you and a mag change ain't gonna help. Neither is laying down waiting to be slaughtered.
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Under fire, shoot through it and hope for the best. Because that's the only chance you have of killing the threat in front of you and a mag change ain't gonna help. Neither is laying down waiting to be slaughtered.
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- Jul 29, 2014
- 50,036
Not so noticeable when shooting subsonic loads, suppressed, with ear pro on(open range with others shooting super so...). That's where I had my first squib. After failing twice to cycle a new round into the chamber, it dawned on me.
- Jul 29, 2014
- 50,036
^^^This. Was always taught, count to 30 while keeping muzzle pointed down range, then clear the round and see what the problem is.
I can't help but think of all of the shooting that goes on everyday throughout the world, how many people actually have fired through a squib and had zero idea?
- Jul 29, 2014
- 50,036
Law of averages.
kraftyone
Active Member
- Mar 9, 2013
- 966
I had one not too long ago racked the slide 3 times before I realized what was going on
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What is a "short range training/plinking load"?
"Hey guys! Since we aren't shooting real people today, let's jjst use the light loads." LOL
kraftyone
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- Mar 9, 2013
- 966
Hey I haven't forgotten about ya!
pm you soon about making a date
Sounds good I am off every other Friday
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Pretty much exactly what happened to me on my only squib incident. Tiny bit of dampness in a 8x56mmR load for a Steyr M95/34. No recoil, no ball of fire. Pushed it out with the cleaning rod as it had just barely engaged the rifling. All the other loads were A-OK but that one.
- Jul 29, 2014
- 50,036
...and then there's the "Hollywood" version of the 'squib load'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squib_(explosive)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squib_(explosive)
j8064
Garrett Co Hooligan #1
Several years ago I had a squib experience. I knew something wasn't right as soon as I pulled the trigger and heard the report.
In addition to all other basic safety, I was taught early that safe shooting includes "hearing" the rounds you fire.
The sound of a squib may not be what you expect. But if something sounds different, stop shooting immediately and check! Like in the first video, clearing the lead slug from a .38 Spl revolver was simple. But the experience could have turned bad if I had not been also focused on the sound of my shots.
Great reminder to all Minuteman.
In addition to all other basic safety, I was taught early that safe shooting includes "hearing" the rounds you fire.
The sound of a squib may not be what you expect. But if something sounds different, stop shooting immediately and check! Like in the first video, clearing the lead slug from a .38 Spl revolver was simple. But the experience could have turned bad if I had not been also focused on the sound of my shots.
Great reminder to all Minuteman.
I saw that when I was looking for some videos to start this thread. Going to stay away from that use of the term. Only talking about the safety 'malfunction' type. Good point though.
I've never heard this before. Not saying you are wrong, maybe it's a regional thing or something. Not what I learned in the military and not what the NRA or any other respected organization I know of using the term that way. Sorry, I find that interesting and unusual; but not the meaning here.
Was hoping you would say that, I totally agree. I think I actually heard this advice from you first, years ago. One of your pearls of wisdom.
Also a good point and something that's unlikely to be reported if there's no problem. Also, likely the shooter won't even realize it.
As far as the possibility of 'cooking off' a cartridge, called a 'hang fire' if it fires; this happening is even more rare than a squib. I forget the recommended time the NRA recommends, but generally a few seconds up to maybe 30 seconds is probably sufficient. I had a .22LR cartridge not fire in a revolver Saturday. Actually it was someone else shooting my gun. We waited a few seconds, then tried unsuccessfully to restrike it a couple more times. Usually they'll fire on a restrike if you rotate the shell slightly.
Another friend said when he was in artillery, they had a cook off after a failure to fire, about a minute and half later! Wowzers!!
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