Severn/GB area High School??

Mr H · Aug 22, 2019

Was just talking to some of the Schillinger family (Papa John's Farm on New Cut Road), and was told they were snapped up through Eminent Domain for a new High School, and that this will be their last season there.

We haven't heard anything about this, and I find it quite astounding. Does anyone have any information about this? About the only thing I can think of that makes any sense is that they are relocating Old Mill HS, and redeveloping the middle schools where they are??

As for the family, they say they'll be fine. They're headed to the Eastern Shore to farm, but likely not open up shop again.

Pale Ryder · Aug 22, 2019

https://www.wmar2news.com/news/regi...r-design-concept-of-old-mill-west-high-school

As I understand it the new school will take everything west of I97 and some of the north area. Current Old Mill will take Crownsville and Millersville area.

GuitarmanNick · Aug 22, 2019

Sad to see them going. I used to live near there and loved having farm fresh produce so close.

jstolz · Aug 22, 2019

I thought they sold it. Didn’t know it was taken.

Pale Ryder · Aug 22, 2019

13 million and change sounds like they purchased it.

https://www.capitalgazette.com/education/ph-ac-cn-old-mill-0728-20170727-story.html?outputType=amp

jtb81100 · Aug 22, 2019

Used to work right down the road, they were looking to sell and get out of the area. County could have threatened ED to keep it from becoming more apartments, but they were closing up shop no matter what.

Matlack · Aug 22, 2019

They willingly sold it to aaco. They had wanted to get rid of it for some time as the younger generation didn't want to deal with it and the ones running it were getting older. Each of the 12 owners wanted to walk with 1 million after taxes, which is what they got.

I forgot to add that the family is leasing the property back, with continuing options until construction starts to run the farm. I think the lease is $1 per year.

Mr H · Aug 22, 2019

Matlack said:
They willingly sold it to aaco. They had wanted to get rid of it for some time as the younger generation didn't want to deal with it and the ones running it were getting older. Each of the 12 owners wanted to walk with 1 million after taxes, which is what they got.

I forgot to add that the family is leasing the property back, with continuing options until construction starts to run the farm. I think the lease is $1 per year.

Some of this is in conflict with my conversation today, but the details aren't all that significant.

Several of the family are setting up on the Eastern Shore, "grain farming, just us and the tractors", so they're not getting out entirely.

The kids have been pushing the folks to retire, what with all the medical and stress issues of the business/stand side of things.

It's possible we're talking to different people with different goals, but the core bits remain... they will be closing, and there are apparently several family dynamics in play.

Mightydog · Aug 22, 2019

Farm sold in 2017 for $13 million, “design concept” approved for $8 MILLION. Hell, give me $1 million and I’ll design a school! Wonder what the cost for actually building the school will be? Didn’t see anything about confiscation of the property tho.

Mark75H · Aug 22, 2019

I thought I read an article about it when the sale took place saying it was the end of the last significant farming acreage north of the South River in AACo

Norton · Aug 22, 2019

Mightydog said:
Farm sold in 2017 for $13 million, “design concept” approved for $8 MILLION. Hell, give me $1 million and I’ll design a school! Wonder what the cost for actually building the school will be? Didn’t see anything about confiscation of the property tho.

$80-100 million to build a ground up new high school these days.

Matlack · Aug 22, 2019

Mr H said:
Some of this is in conflict with my conversation today, but the details aren't all that significant.

Several of the family are setting up on the Eastern Shore, "grain farming, just us and the tractors", so they're not getting out entirely.

The kids have been pushing the folks to retire, what with all the medical and stress issues of the business/stand side of things.

It's possible we're talking to different people with different goals, but the core bits remain... they will be closing, and there are apparently several family dynamics in play.

My conversation was from a couple years ago when they were negotiating with the county. It took a while to negotiate. Could be sellers remorse. It might actually be 10 owners, not 12. They were happy at the time. That's all I know.

Matlack · Aug 22, 2019

Norton said:
$80-100 million to build a ground up new high school these days.

I would expect this to be much higher because it's not just the building.

How much did Crofton cost?

Mightydog · Aug 22, 2019

Norton said:
$80-100 million to build a ground up new high school these days.

Because these kids can’t go to “just” a school... it has to be a CAMPUS!

Mr H · Aug 22, 2019

Mightydog said:
Because these kids can’t go to “just” a school... it has to be a CAMPUS!

Glen Burnie HS used to be a 'campus' (I termed out in 1980)

Now it's more like a compound

Norton · Aug 22, 2019

Matlack said:
I would expect this to be much higher because it's not just the building.

How much did Crofton cost?

Yeah, looks like I was low - Wendi Winters High School was around $125 million.

adit · Aug 22, 2019

They just published today a $150mil figure for a new high school in Georgetown, DE. A remodel of a current school complex was $167mil (IIRC).

Mack C-85 · Aug 22, 2019

Old Mill Rumor Mill (two years ago).....and I'm glad my kids are out....

New Center for Applied Technology and Old Mill High School at the current Old Mill Complex. New buildings on fields on either side of current complex. New fields where current building is.

New Middle School at Southgate Park.

New Middle School at current CATN site.

New High School at Papa Johns.

This will be a total CF as far as traffic goes....

Two High Schools (New AACO & Archbishop Spaulding) facing each other on New Cut Road

The secondary access to one High School (Spaulding) across Stevenson Road from the new Middle School (much higher student load and different schedules than CATN)

Traffic at I97 exit and Veteran's is already FUBAR in AM.

Like I said, glad I'm out....

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Dal1as · Aug 23, 2019

Mack C-85 said:
Old Mill Rumor Mill (two years ago).....and I'm glad my kids are out....

New Center for Applied Technology and Old Mill High School at the current Old Mill Complex. New buildings on fields on either side of current complex. New fields where current building is.

New Middle School at Southgate Park.

New Middle School at current CATN site.

New High School at Papa Johns.

This will be a total CF as far as traffic goes....

Two High Schools (New AACO & Archbishop Spaulding) facing each other on New Cut Road

The secondary access to one High School (Spaulding) across Stevenson Road from the new Middle School (much higher student load and different schedules than CATN)

Traffic at I97 exit and Veteran's is already FUBAR in AM.

Like I said, glad I'm out....

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Ah crap. My son will be going to Spalding the following year. Not cool. Horrible logistical thinking by AA.

jstolz · Aug 23, 2019

Severna Park high was rebuilt a few years ago, want to say completed in 2016 or 2017. That cost $130 million and was a new rebuild. Most likely will cost more than that. Parking lots, sports fields, roads etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if by completion $150- 200 million.

Severn/GB area High School??

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