new MD C&R rule ?
- Thread starter rob b
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j_h_smith
Ultimate Member
- Jul 28, 2007
- 28,516
They took the word of 2 gun stores (class 01) in states that don't know diddly about Maryland law. He deserves a negative feedback. In addition to a complaint to Gunbroker or where ever the firearm was listed.
JWBanshee
Active Member
- Jul 1, 2009
- 399
C&R
I just had a shot gun shipped Monday) , that was C&R, no problems.
I just had a shot gun shipped Monday) , that was C&R, no problems.
rob b
c@r collecting
that's what I did
I will call them in the AM also to find how to direct him to the correct laws of MD
todbiker
Ultimate Member
I've purchased a few C&R items on GB. If the seller doesn't specify C&R eligible or verbiage regarding their C&R policy, I email them prior to bidding and make them tell me if they have an issue shipping to me. Some refuse, some are willing to be educated and some are just happy to be taking my money. Either way, there is one less surprise after a purchase. If the dealer has a policy against shipping a C&R to MD, maybe he should post that in the ad? As others have said, feedback is there for a reason.
I've had probably two dozen dealers on Gunbroker transfer C&R handguns on my FFL03... not a single problem and perfectly legal. C&R handguns are specifically exempt from HQL requirements, so no additional certs are required. The only caveat, is that the handgun cannot be offered with a magazine that holds over 10 rounds. The dealer in question does not know what he is talking about.
rob b
c@r collecting
I spoke to trooper Smith on the phone and we are all right on this
so I directed the seller to call or email him to confirm so we will see
so I directed the seller to call or email him to confirm so we will see
TexDefender
Ultimate Member
- Feb 28, 2017
- 1,572
What kills me about this letter is the very last sentence.
"This letter does not constitute an official opinion of this office or the Office pf the Attorney General of Maryland."
Though it is signed by the Assistance Attorney General..
So legally, it doesn't hold water? Sounds like a clear case of legal double talk.
The AG's office only issues "official" opinions when requested by a legiscritter, and, even then, most of their answers come with that weasel language.What kills me about this letter is the very last sentence.
"This letter does not constitute an official opinion of this office or the Office pf the Attorney General of Maryland."
Though it is signed by the Assistance Attorney General..
So legally, it doesn't hold water? Sounds like a clear case of legal double talk.
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I couldn't even make it through the Empire Arms link without wanting to gouge my eyes out. Stevie Wonder could design a better looking web site for them.
I couldn't even make it through the Empire Arms link without wanting to gouge my eyes out. Stevie Wonder could design a better looking web site for them.
So it wasn't just me?
j_h_smith
Ultimate Member
- Jul 28, 2007
- 28,516
I'd bet that same design was used when he ran a BBS. It looks that dated.
- Nov 11, 2009
- 30,987
Apparently it works well enough.
Unlike a number of modern business sites I've tried to navigate, which look nice but make it nearly impossible to accomplish the intended action. I've had to call customer service for at least three sites in the last few weeks to find out how to make the site work for me.
Hell's bells, the MSI site insists on squatting atop half my screen, forcing me to read it five lines at a time. My poor mouse is wearing out its scroller.
j_h_smith
Ultimate Member
- Jul 28, 2007
- 28,516
I just looked - Empire states that your FFL 03 must be on file before they can ship to you. Nothing new.
somd_mustangs
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- Jul 1, 2012
- 5,737
If you manage to last long enough to scroll down further and suffer through the different fonts and colors, he does have a paragraph about not shipping any modern handguns to MD, and that C&R pistols have to go to FFL-01 in MD...
"MARYLAND: No modern handguns sold to anyone, dealer or not (they must be C&R eligible). All C&R eligible handguns MUST be shipped to a Maryland Class 01 dealer. C&R rifles can still be shipped directly to a C&R (Class 03) licensee."
We know that isn't the law so this is a choice that Empire has made.
"MARYLAND: No modern handguns sold to anyone, dealer or not (they must be C&R eligible). All C&R eligible handguns MUST be shipped to a Maryland Class 01 dealer. C&R rifles can still be shipped directly to a C&R (Class 03) licensee."
We know that isn't the law so this is a choice that Empire has made.
todbiker
Ultimate Member
From Empires website
"MARYLAND: No modern handguns sold to anyone, dealer or not (they must be C&R eligible). All C&R eligible handguns MUST be shipped to a Maryland Class 01 dealer. C&R rifles can still be shipped directly to a C&R (Class 03) licensee."
Good to know, I have my C&R on file with him and never read the fine print regarding shipping C&R pistols to MD...
