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    JRoCc

    JRoCc

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    Jun 2, 2010
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    Wow. That guy is gonna have his HQL revoked.

    Glad the officer that was hit is ok.
     
    WildBill

    WildBill

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    May 7, 2017
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    It's crazy how many shots he got off before the police were able to incapacitate him. I wonder how much markmanship training the average bcpd officer receives.
     
    dontpanic

    dontpanic

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    Jul 7, 2013
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    They were having the .308/5.56 debate in the comments. :lol2:

    I'm glad no one was seriously hurt. The guy behind the van with him, must have soiled himself
     
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    DC-W

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    Jan 23, 2013
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    This truly is nuts. That was my neighborhood growing up. 10 bus would take me downtown for work when I was a teen. Saw a lot of stuff over that way, but nothing even close to that!
     
    SavageShooter

    SavageShooter

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    Jan 10, 2014
    644
    Arbutus, MD
    I hope they killed the criminal. Each Bal Co. PD car should be equipped with an AR-15. But remember who their now retired chief was Jim Johnson. Kissed up to O'Malley and Obama. He supported HB/SB 281. Bet ya the police officers sure loved him!
     
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    DC-W

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    Jim Johnson was replaced months ago by Kamenetz. Even better, now we have Terrence Sheridan, Glendenning's head of the MSP.
     
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    Speed3

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    Aug 19, 2011
    7,835
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    That is crazy to me. Sorry the officer and civilian were harmed in this event.

    Seems the camera guy was out in then open trying to get the video for a while, not smart, take cover.

    The robber was dual welding pistols like in COD.
     
    smokey

    smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    31,509
    WildBill said:
    It's crazy how many shots he got off before the police were able to incapacitate him. I wonder how much markmanship training the average bcpd officer receives.
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    According to the comments section, it's because he was white. They claim if he was black, the police would have killed him instantly..... nevermind all that stuff about trying to hit a mostly concealed and moving target, against a residential backdrop, that's actively firing at you, with a handgun, from 25+ yards.

    But yeah, they probably could've made more effective use of cover, but the bad guy is dead and they aren't, so chock it up as a win.
     
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    DC-W

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    Jan 23, 2013
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    Imagine if you were the camera man and instead of holding a camera, you had your carry pistol. What would you do?
     
    mopar92

    mopar92

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    May 5, 2011
    9,513
    Taneytown
    DC-W said:
    Imagine if you were the camera man and instead of holding a camera, you had your carry pistol. What would you do?
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    If we go by mosts mentality. Point shoot all over the place and wonder why he's wearing bulletproof everything. Don't ya know the rule? 3 yards, 3 seconds, 3 shots? I took all the sights off my gun to reduce drag.


    In all seriousness, due to the proximity to possible innocents (bus full/empty) and the fact he is an active threat with a handgun........this is a rifle situation.
     
    Engine4

    Engine4

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    Dec 30, 2012
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    mopar92 said:
    In all seriousness, due to the proximity to possible innocents (bus full/empty) and the fact he is an active threat with a handgun........this is a rifle situation.
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    Yep, too bad a good citizen wasn't peeking out his window with a 308.
     
    mopar92

    mopar92

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    May 5, 2011
    9,513
    Taneytown
    Engine4 said:
    Yep, too bad a good citizen wasn't peeking out his window with a 308.
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    308 kills bugs dead but 5.56 is better for urban stuff. Less chance of overpenetration and or long distance errant shots/ricochets. Also another damn good example of anyone contemplating using mil spec ammos for personal defense. 855 would likely zip through him as would 855A1. 193 would likely tumble due to his size/structure but getting COM becomes critical. Mk 318 or 262 would be a safer gamble but this is where a 62-64 grain bonded softpoint or Honady TAP 77 Grain shines.
     
    smokey

    smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    31,509
    Just in case any of you still had some faith in humanity left somehow, here's just a quick sampling of facebook comments for the video of the shooting...
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