You might as well go to the other places then, if this site offends you.. One week in and trolling won't make you popular. Guns are very much a political issue in case you haven't been paying attention.
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You might as well go to the other places then, if this site offends you.. One week in and trolling won't make you popular. Guns are very much a political issue in case you haven't been paying attention.
It is kind of bizarre to try and shut down discussion of 2A laws and policy and the politics that drives them on the"national 2A issues" forum of this site.
Thanks to the decision by the Democrat party to allow Michael Bloomberg to launder hundreds of millions per year Michael in exchange for opposing any gun ownership, he holds dominating IOUs and dictates the Democrats' positions on the issue.
And what Democrat legislators and candidates are "pro-gun rights"??? This issue has gone from 80/20 highly partisan a generation ago -- to the single most partisan issue in US politics today. It was the position of all the major candidates for the Democrat presidential nomination that Heller is an illegitimate and incorrect decision. This means the Democrats policy is that even with a background check, even with training, even with waiting periods, even with a safe, that he American citizen shoudl not be able to own a revolver.
Obama said over and over he woudl like to follow the australian model. That is no revolvers, and prove a need for any gun. If he had had the house, senate and courts he would have done that in a minute.
rob
DINO Extraordinaire
I got news for ya, this has been going on for 60 years.
If JFK were alive today, he'd be considered to be as conservative as Rush Limbaugh.
Today's GOP has adopted many of the tax and spend fiscal policies of the dems, has generally expanded government, has gotten pretty wishy washy on the 2A, has helped run roughshod over the 4th amendment.
They aren't psycho like the liberal dems, but today's GOP is not your grandparents GOP.
All of this is a direct result of the liberal influence on schools and the liberal media. The media has been shaping the debate for decades while schools have been incrementally pushing liberal ideals.
Rob.
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Gunny1
Senior Citizen Member
I agree with you!
Is it a coincidence that I moved here from Maryland (Towson) to Youngsville too? Five years ago! I hang out at Patriot.
SigP226
Active Member
Ha, that is a coincidence. I am at Patriot often, maybe we will meet up sometime.
CrueChief
Cocker Dad/RIP Bella
Pretty much my point conservatives have no real representation. Not sure how/if that ever gets fixed.
I joined the forum because I thought it was a platform for individuals that had a like interest in firearms and shooting sports. I'm not here to be liked, make friends, or influence people. Whether I have been a member for a week or longer when I applied for a membership to the site and was accepted by the site admin. I was granted the privilege to post the same as any of you as long as I follow forum rules. I'm not being a troll I just have a different opinion from yours and I voiced it like it or not. As was mentioned in one of the post no one asked me to visit the post if I do not like it, I don't like. I have spent 22 years in the US Military and another 21 years employed by the Department Of Defense I have earned my right to voice my opinion so if you don't like what I have to say ignore my post. In the future I will steer clear of post that only want to see positive post supporting there point of view.
KevinK
Ultimate Member
Okay.
There may be a Dem voter who is pro-gun but prioritizes other issues over gun rights. No one in their right mind would vote for a Dem if their priority was to advance gun rights.
I'm sure there are people on this forum who vote D straight down the line and then bitch about their gun rights.
Tungsten
Ultimate Member
I'd be willing to bet a large amount of money you are correct.
Then it’s fair to say that we can’t all be above average.
CrueChief
Cocker Dad/RIP Bella
I believe one of the problems is it used to be "guns" wasn't as partisan as it is today. And many old timers still think that just because so and so is a dem doesn't mean they are bad on guns, because they don't look it up and just go from the way it used to be. Or for them guns is the only "conservative" thing they have and are liberal about most others so, you vote for the guy you agree more with.
Guns didn’t change. It’s the left’s growing need for civilian disarmament that is driving this. I suspect we’re seeing this crossover is because the more conservative Democrats have flipped to become Republicans as their old party veered sharply left and er left them behind. Some just haven’t flipped because their information sources keep telling them that D’s are the only ones who care and that conservatives are evil.
Either someone believes that a robust 2A is truly necessary for the existence of a free state or they do not. Other than a signed document, there is no other safeguard.
The big pivot point happened when we became so wealthy and comfortable that we stopped voting our own interests and started voting for the side claiming to help the most sympathetic victims. When that security blanket starts to wear too thin, People will start paying closer attention.
Either someone believes that a robust 2A is truly necessary for the existence of a free state or they do not. Other than a signed document, there is no other safeguard.
The big pivot point happened when we became so wealthy and comfortable that we stopped voting our own interests and started voting for the side claiming to help the most sympathetic victims. When that security blanket starts to wear too thin, People will start paying closer attention.
We are in the political discussion forum.......
Can you name 10 pro-2A Democrats in Congress?
Woopdie fu#king do, nobody asked for your DD214 or SF50 so save it for someone who cares.
There's a reason they're called Massholes in New England.
rob
DINO Extraordinaire
It'll get fixed when conservatives (and I mean real conservatives who believe in freedom, the COTUS, equal opportunity personal responsibility and capitalism) retake the education system, the press and the internet monsters. So, basically, not in the foreseeable future.
Rob
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CrueChief
Cocker Dad/RIP Bella
Yeah that's the problem, most true conservatives just want to be left alone to live their lives. And that is the part that gets us in trouble.
Our system wasn't setup to be a 2-party system which is most of the problem.
Does Mitt Romney count?
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