Delegate Dumais working on bill to ban 80% firearms

NatBoh · Dec 30, 2018

hillbilly grandpa said:
A useful strategy is to not get caught up in attempting to push back against the latest agenda of the gun grabbers. In that arena they have the initiative, and set the agenda. Our efforts there would be overwhelmingly reactive. That's playing a losing hand. We need to articulate a different position entirely, and drive that agenda without the entanaglements that come from dancing to their tune. Think of Uncle Remus and Tar Baby.

Our position should be very focused and clear: To the various occupants of seats in Annapolis: The battle line is not between Democrats and Republicans. It is between law abiding citizens and criminals. Put consideration of additional restrictions on the freedoms of law abiding citizens on hold. Instead, craft legislation and enforcement mechanism that will address the actions/behavior of criminals that engage in the wide variety of violent crimes against law abiding citizens. Establish criteria for assessing effectiveness. Your job is to take action to provide for the safety of Maryland's law abiding citizens. DO YOUR JOB.

That messge delivered repeatedly, in multiple venues, with great urgency. Simple, clean, targeted.

I completely disagree with your assertion that it’s the job of Maryland government to provide for my safety.

Other than the Federal government’s duty to provide for the common defense, government has no legal or moral duty to provide for my protection. That’s my job!

2ndMDRebel · Dec 30, 2018

Can the serial number be in Klingon?

Or say ancient Viking runes?

mac1_131 · Dec 30, 2018

2ndMDRebel said:
Can the serial number be in Klingon?

Or say ancient Viking runes?

No ATF is pretty specific on how serial numbers must be.

1, 2, 3 are acceptable.

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hillbilly grandpa · Dec 30, 2018

NatBoh said:
I completely disagree with your assertion that it’s the job of Maryland government to provide for my safety.

Other than the Federal government’s duty to provide for the common defense, government has no legal or moral duty to provide for my protection. That’s my job!

OK. Expound on how that translates into a political strategy that (a) attracts widespread active engagement and (b) lends itself to sustained action. The political arena was, initially, the focus of the thread.

BeoBill · Dec 30, 2018

Bikebreath said:
I have nothing nice to say and I’m saying it...Delegate Dufus.

"Dumais" is not pronounced the way it is spelled... :innocent0

randomuser · Dec 30, 2018

hillbilly grandpa said:
Your job is to take action to provide for the safety of Maryland's law abiding citizens. DO YOUR JOB.

Warren vs district of columbia disagrees with what you say is their job.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

Tbh, gov is overpriced and underperforming at anything they do anything. I'd rather not have my rights be infringed and maintain my own security without a 20 min lag from call to coos on site. Let's face it. If the reason you are calling the cops is because there is someone you can't defend against you should probably have a gun to sway things in your favor. If the criminal has a gun then at least you have a level playing field. If you have to wait any time for your own defense then YOU did not take control of your own security and couple potentially be harmed because you failed to prepare.

This so far was about protecting yourself. There is an equally important reason to be armed.

BeoBill · Dec 30, 2018

rbird7282 said:
Politicians don’t write bills period. The lobbyists do.

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FIFY.

And the OPs are right; the lobbyists get their base material from the DNC. Disarming the U.S. has been a plank in their platform for decades now.

BeoBill · Dec 30, 2018

hillbilly grandpa said:
OK. Expound on how that translates into a political strategy that (a) attracts widespread active engagement and (b) lends itself to sustained action. The political arena was, initially, the focus of the thread.

You're new here. This is Subject Matter Reprise #268,822,763,549,872.

PowPow · Dec 30, 2018

BeoBill said:
You're new here. This is Subject Matter Reprise #268,822,763,549,872.

His join date is before yours. However, you're both 13'ers. :lol2:

NatBoh · Dec 30, 2018

hillbilly grandpa said:
OK. Expound on how that translates into a political strategy that (a) attracts widespread active engagement and (b) lends itself to sustained action. The political arena was, initially, the focus of the thread.

It shouldn’t be the basis of of a political strategy since government has no duty to protect its citizens.

Not only does it have no duty to do so, but when the citizens most need that protection, government is incapable of providing it. They are in self preservation mode at that point.

randomuser · Jan 1, 2019

NatBoh said:
It shouldn’t be the basis of of a political strategy since government has no duty to protect its citizens.

Not only does it have no duty to do so, but when the citizens most need that protection, government is incapable of providing it. They are in self preservation mode at that point.

If you ever want to see how incompetent government is on almost anything they do just go to youtube and watch Trey Gowdy blast apart every single person in front of him and watch how incompetently people answer his direct questions. If you really want to get pissed at how your tax dollars are wasted definitely check it out.

Docster · Jan 1, 2019

NatBoh said:
I completely disagree with your assertion that it’s the job of Maryland government to provide for my safety.

Other than the Federal government’s duty to provide for the common defense, government has no legal or moral duty to provide for my protection. That’s my job!

Agree especially The Right to Bear Arms The founding Fathers stated it clearly.

“The militia is our ultimate safety. We can have no security without it.”

Patrick Henry

“I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for few public officials.”

"It becomes all therefore who are friends of a Government based on free principles to reflect, that by denying the possibility of a system partly federal and partly consolidated, and who would convert ours into one either wholly federal or wholly consolidated, in neither of which forms have individual rights, public order, and external safety, been all duly maintained, they aim a deadly blow at the last hope of true liberty on the face of the Earth." ( external safety was threats to the country from outside others)

George Mason

BeoBill · Jan 1, 2019

PowPow said:
His join date is before yours. However, you're both 13'ers.

And you have WAY more posts than he does. So?

BeoBill · Jan 1, 2019

Docster said:
Agree especially The Right to Bear Arms The founding Fathers stated it clearly.

“The militia is our ultimate safety. We can have no security without it.”

Patrick Henry

“I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for few public officials.”

"It becomes all therefore who are friends of a Government based on free principles to reflect, that by denying the possibility of a system partly federal and partly consolidated, and who would convert ours into one either wholly federal or wholly consolidated, in neither of which forms have individual rights, public order, and external safety, been all duly maintained, they aim a deadly blow at the last hope of true liberty on the face of the Earth." ( external safety was threats to the country from outside others)

George Mason

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cstone · Jan 1, 2019

If only we could get a legislator to propose a bill eliminating 80% of politicians and 80% of lawyers. I believe this would solve more than 80% of our problems.

buellsfurn · Jan 1, 2019

saw this sunday at the chantilly show this is a amazing artist, Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" Patrick Henry www.tonymoreschi.com check out the prints I wanted the t shirt with this but he was out

BeoBill · Jan 1, 2019

DaemonAssassin · Jan 1, 2019

cstone said:
If only we could get a legislator to propose a bill eliminating 80% of politicians and 80% of lawyers. I believe this would solve more than 80% of our problems.

I give it a 3% chance of success within the first 2 weeks of the MGA session of 2019.

yakfish · Jan 1, 2019

All my home builds are undocumented.

If that’s good enough for immigrants, it’s good enough for guns.

Pinecone · Jan 2, 2019

mac1_131 said:
No ATF is pretty specific on how serial numbers must be.

1, 2, 3 are acceptable.

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As I have stated before.

Serial number 1

then Serial Number 1

Then Serial Number 1

They don't say they have to be unique.

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