Regarding the VA rally from somebody with experience with VA "protest control"

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  • concerned user

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    Hello im a new user and this will likely be my only post here. I have been gathering information about the protest and just want to warn concerned people about the possibility of disaster based on information released during northrams press conference.

    First of all The entire protest grounds is DESIGNED for violence. It only has one entrance (with police turning away and or arresting armed people on the spot) meaning you will NOT be carrying guns into the protest unless we get saved by a judge's injunction (cross your fingers this is happening today and its the only day it can happen as court is closed on the weekend)

    That can be seen here.
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    There was a previous protest in charlottesville designed by the governor at the time to not only strip people of their rights but also cause political violence that the media could use. You will be locked in a cage with counter protesters. And likely antifa goons from several other states. They want a riot to happen to justify the state of emergency as legal backup.

    Many of you might be confident that everything will be fine but i can assure you that people will be imported to cause trouble. One thing you should look out for is people with nazi/hypernationalist imagery/patches/flags/and signs. If you see them. Politely or non politely expose them and tell them to get the f out. The reason those people are there are for cameras. CNN and company will be interviewing those people and not you. If you see these interviews happening , or press taking pictures of said people , intervene and stop them. Disrupt this hitjob at all costs. These are either confused very young morons who dont have anything to do with the protest but want a "boog" or deliberate plants from the government to deligitimize the protest. It should be a priority for everyone to police these people VIGILANTLY. During the charlottesville march , there was only one single man among thousands with a nazi flag , and it was straight out of a amazon package and still had fold creases from storage. Nobody knew who he was. Yet it was one of the most popular images of the march. Likely seen by everyone who read the news about the event. If you see a nazi flag or something similar. Its absolutely worth arrest to take it from them and burn it on the spot.

    Northrams state of emergency was , by the way , illegal. In 2012 the VA government signed a bill making what he is doing illegal. Specifically he is using internet chatter to start a state of emergency. This gives him the power to create a "shelter" where second amendment rights do not exist. The issue with this is the shelter is 14 acres of the capitol building and grounds where a protest has been planned for weeks. Lawyers are on this as we speak. But there is no promise he could be given a black eye from a judge. So if friday passes and there is no legal movement on this. Monday is going to be dangerous. Leave your wives/kids at home.

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    My ultimate message is to stay safe. There are people in the VA government connected to bloomburg , antifa , and other very violent very evil organizations who see this protest as not a threat , but a opportunity to prove gun owners as violent thugs who need to be disarmed.

    However the context must be understood. If VA is successful in passing these bills. Its a blueprint of how the second amendment is going to be destroyed in this country. You cannot rely on the supreme court because they are cowards who refuse to take second amendment cases. There are no promises or garuntees anymore. The right wing in this country is peaceful and historically has been. But we are entering a period of politics where the right will have less and less power. You will live to see texas turn blue. And your opinion on police will begin to change as these changes take place. Police are good people. But they will follow orders including stopping you from practicing your rights. They have families to feed and will not bravely in large numbers revolt against the governments infringements on the second amendment. To many police officers , especially in urban areas. Gun control is a dream for them because it means they might not get shot.


    Monday is going to be a big day. You must be prepared for the worst. But also be prepared for the best. If a judge issues an injunction against northram. You will likely be able to carry on the grounds and if this happens the chance of violence drops substantially. Nobody is going to agitate a armed crowd.

    Pray the laywers come though and if they dont, pray that monday is safe.


    EDIT

    Just some more legal information in case monday is a bad day for the country. Northram lied about police suggesting the capitol gun ban. Which means if there is violence or a riot he is legally liable for creating the situation based on lies.

    https://vpm.org/news/articles/9749/...ic-leaders-incorrect-on-gun-restriction-claim

    EDIT NUMBER 2

    When i say STAY VIGILANT about nazis and other freaks. I MEAN IT

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-arrests-3-suspected-white-supremacists-on-federal-gun-charges/#
     

    davsco

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    first, i hope that guns are allowed and the fence/stockade goes away. if that doesn't happen, i'm thinking we should assemble all around the outside perimeter. one, we won't be like fish in a barrel should something go wrong. and two i think that almost sends a better signal, the capitol surrounded by folks who just want the constitution (fed and state) upheld.
     

    GuitarmanNick

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    Praying that everyone attending makes it home safely. Do the Demonrats really want the events depicted in John Ross's Unintended Consequences to occur? Likely not far off if they continue poking American patriots.

    My thinking is that they are antagonizing gun owners with their tyranny in hopes of creating retaliation which will then serve to further limit the rights of law abiding citizens of the state. Hoping all remains peaceful but expecting to see "infiltrators" cause problems.
     

    Alea Jacta Est

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    They say that if you repeat a lie often enough it will become the truth.

    FNdemonrats have sold their souls. No wonder they like muzzles so much. What is it? Taquia that allows any lie to be told with impunity, so long as the lie advances the cause?

    Miserable SOBs. May they rot in hell. ...sooner than later.
     

    CrazySanMan

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    RICHMOND: THE MOTHER OF ALL BUFFALO JUMPS
    Posted by Matt Bracken | Jan 7, 2020

    https://www.americanpartisan.org/2020/01/richmond-the-mother-of-all-buffalo-jumps/
    The more I ponder the mass demonstration being promoted by the Virginia Citizens Defense League for the annual Lobby Day at the Richmond Capitol, the more it looks like a disaster in the making. I wish it were otherwise, but I see many times more downside risk than possible upside benefit.

    Please read the rest of this post by Matt Bracken, especially if you plan on attending Monday's rally.
     

    concerned user

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    by the way if anybody has an account on ARFCOM or other forums you are free to share that post 1/1. I just dont want to sign up for any more websites.
     

    wabbit

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    Some people have done a good job of helping the Democrats in power by misstating this event. It is NOT a protest. It is Lobby Day where ordinary citizens are speaking with their representatives in the state legislature about their concerns. It is NOT a protest, despite how much Governor Blackface wants to portray it. I suspect the OP of this thread is from the Bloomberg Moms group.

    It's not a protest, so if anyone is going, don't think you're going to be chanting slogans and throwing your fists into the air, defying The Man. It's not a protest.
     
    The reason democrats do sh*t like this is because gun owners let them...So gung ho to keep their status as "law abiding" that the democrats have learned to use it against them...When you guns are gone or essentially useless you only have yourselves to blame...This should have been dealt with in the manner the law allows...There is a reason the 2nd amendment was written into the constitution....the actions of the democrats are exactly why...So why aren't the bodies being stacked??
     

    nedsurf

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    RICHMOND: THE MOTHER OF ALL BUFFALO JUMPS
    Posted by Matt Bracken | Jan 7, 2020

    https://www.americanpartisan.org/2020/01/richmond-the-mother-of-all-buffalo-jumps/


    Please read the rest of this post by Matt Bracken, especially if you plan on attending Monday's rally.

    He could be correct and it will be a "buffalo jump" orchestrated by these political sociopaths.
    Back in the day very brave people had to face fire hoses marching from Selma to Montgomery and get drinks dumped on their head at lunch counters for their constitutional rights Some were murdered. With the VA sanctuary movement, I think the time is now for 2A rights supporters to take a risk. I'm fearful of the worst also but am going anyway. It will be a serious farewell to my family that morning.
     

    PharaohF4

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    Some people have done a good job of helping the Democrats in power by misstating this event. It is NOT a protest. It is Lobby Day where ordinary citizens are speaking with their representatives in the state legislature about their concerns. It is NOT a protest, despite how much Governor Blackface wants to portray it. I suspect the OP of this thread is from the Bloomberg Moms group.

    It's not a protest, so if anyone is going, don't think you're going to be chanting slogans and throwing your fists into the air, defying The Man. It's not a protest.

    based on the entirety of his post/research, I'd say he is anything but. To me it looks like a new person who is fed up with this crap and is joining MDS. We shouldn't push him/her away as we probably will have more people joining MDS, just like the 13ers did back in 2013
     

    bibitor

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    Some people have done a good job of helping the Democrats in power by misstating this event. It is NOT a protest. It is Lobby Day where ordinary citizens are speaking with their representatives in the state legislature about their concerns. It is NOT a protest, despite how much Governor Blackface wants to portray it. I suspect the OP of this thread is from the Bloomberg Moms group.

    It's not a protest, so if anyone is going, don't think you're going to be chanting slogans and throwing your fists into the air, defying The Man. It's not a protest.

    OK, it's not a protest, it's a...rally. Kinda like vaginal massage videos on youtube aren't porn, they're...instructional.

    For those going to lobby, rally, or protest, I send my sincere thanks, FEMA Region III needs to stick together!
     

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    Some people have done a good job of helping the Democrats in power by misstating this event. It is NOT a protest. It is Lobby Day where ordinary citizens are speaking with their representatives in the state legislature about their concerns. It is NOT a protest, despite how much Governor Blackface wants to portray it. I suspect the OP of this thread is from the Bloomberg Moms group.

    It's not a protest, so if anyone is going, don't think you're going to be chanting slogans and throwing your fists into the air, defying The Man. It's not a protest.

    im sorry you think im some sort of fake poster despite posting very VERY important legal information no person on the opposite side would EVER distribute. However you feel about this , it IS a protest. Its not a "lobby day" when there is a state of emergency and the governor is telling people there is going to be potential terror attacks and weaponized drones. I would be shocked if any of you are going to be allowed into the capitol building at all unless a judge delivers us a victory today. I could of course be wrong. But based on what im seeing you are actively being denied your first and second amendment rights and still dont understand the full depth of what this man has planned for monday.

    As far as me joining the maryland gun rights fight. There really is no fight. I would rather spend my money on firearms and things that matter rather than inexperienced lawyers and people incapable of creative legal combat. What happened in 2013 could have been stopped with good legal teams, media contacts , real activism , and networking but it was crushed by incompetence , and lazyness on our side. Our only salvation in maryland still remains the supreme court saving the ar15 by name and depending on monday that fight could land sooner than later.

    I hope i didnt offend most of you with this post. But I really am tired of being accused of subversion by old timers who effectively let maryland fall to the wolves.
     

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