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XCheckR · Jun 2, 2016

So i had the TV on this morning while getting ready for work and they did the bit on the gun violence day....but they had someone who basically called out the judicial system and cited some stats about repeat offenders...i was in the shower so i only heard it (or imagined it)...

did anyone else catch that???? i did some searching and couldnt find it.

Mark75H · Jun 2, 2016

Clarence Mitchell IV railed about it for about an hour on WBAL radio this AM ... maybe it was him doing a cameo

TheRealSundance · Jun 3, 2016

There is a FB page that lists arrest for guns in Baltimore and list all previous crimes. Some guys have pages and pages and have done barely any time.

rseymorejr · Jun 3, 2016

TheRealSundance said:
There is a FB page that lists arrest for guns in Baltimore and list all previous crimes. Some guys have pages and pages and have done barely any time.

That's because they are rehabilitating them, just takes a while

iH8DemLibz · Jun 3, 2016

***Not To Offend Alert.*** If the caller is a member here.

Caller was saying 20% the criminal's fault, 20% LEO's fault, 20% the system's fault, blah, blah, blah until 100% is reached.

How about it's 96% the criminal's fault, 1% LEO's fault, 1% the system's fault, until 100% is reached.

We wouldn't even need the other 4% if the criminals didn't commit crimes.

Or we could say it's 100% the criminal's fault and call it a day.

Mr H · Jun 3, 2016

I get your point, and agree in principle.

But, if it's the caller I think it was, a lot of the focus was on the judges. Partly true, but trial lawyers and their cronies (many of whom MAKE our laws and regulations) have decided to keep an eye turned toward their 'day job' income stream. How better to secure that, than a revolving door?!

Then, to where do many trial lawyers get promoted???

iH8DemLibz · Jun 3, 2016

Mr H said:
I get your point, and agree in principle.

But, if it's the caller I think it was, a lot of the focus was on the judges. Partly true, but trial lawyers and their cronies (many of whom MAKE our laws and regulations) have decided to keep an eye turned toward their 'day job' income stream. How better to secure that, than a revolving door?!

Then, to where do many trial lawyers get promoted???

Congress!

And our General Assembly.

Mr H · Jun 3, 2016

iH8DemLibz said:
Congress!

And our General Assembly.

Sorry... The answer we were looking for is 'Judgeships'.

We do have some lovely parting gifts for you.

Matlack · Jun 3, 2016

The BCPD chief was railing about it at a press conference also. Seems like the powers that be have decided that Mosby is dead weight and are ready to ditch her.

Mark75H · Jun 3, 2016

Matlack said:
The BCPD chief was railing about it at a press conference also. Seems like the powers that be have decided that Mosby is dead weight and are ready to ditch her.

I wouldn't bet on it

rseymorejr · Jun 3, 2016

iH8DemLibz said:
***Not To Offend Alert.*** If the caller is a member here.

Caller was saying 20% the criminal's fault, 20% LEO's fault, 20% the system's fault, blah, blah, blah until 100% is reached.

How about it's 96% the criminal's fault, 1% LEO's fault, 1% the system's fault, until 100% is reached.

We wouldn't even need the other 4% if the criminals didn't commit crimes.

Or we could say it's 100% the criminal's fault and call it a day.

How about: 1st offense= 100% criminal's fault
2nd offense= 50% criminal's fault+ 50% justice system's fault
3rd offense= 33% criminal's fault+ 67% justice system's fault
4th offense and beyond= 20% criminal's fault+ 80% justice system's fault

DutchV · Jun 3, 2016

rseymorejr said:
How about: 1st offense= 100% criminal's fault
2nd offense= 50% criminal's fault+ 50% justice system's fault
3rd offense= 33% criminal's fault+ 67% justice system's fault
4th offense and beyond= 20% criminal's fault+ 80% justice system's fault

I'm with you on this. After the first chance or two, the criminal isn't getting the hang of being rehabilitated. The system needs to recognize that, and start keeping him in jail for longer.

And quit using the plea bargain to give away the house. "Mandatory" sentences should be exactly that.

ted76 · Jun 3, 2016

DutchV said:
I'm with you on this. After the first chance or two, the criminal isn't getting the hang of being rehabilitated. The system needs to recognize that, and start keeping him in jail for longer.

And quit using the plea bargain to give away the house. "Mandatory" sentences should be exactly that.

After the first chance or two, being hanged will take care of the problem. :innocent0

BeoBill · Jun 3, 2016

Public hangings used to be family entertainment. Hundreds would gather to watch, and mementos and snacks were sold to the attendees.

ted76 · Jun 4, 2016

It would put some meaning into the 3 strikes and you are out laws.

StickShaker · Jun 4, 2016

rseymorejr said:
How about: 1st offense= 100% criminal's fault
2nd offense= 50% criminal's fault+ 50% justice system's fault
3rd offense= 33% criminal's fault+ 67% justice system's fault
4th offense and beyond= 20% criminal's fault+ 80% justice system's fault

My thoughts as well...

j_h_smith · Jun 4, 2016

rseymorejr said:
How about: 1st offense= 100% criminal's fault
2nd offense= 50% criminal's fault+ 50% justice system's fault
3rd offense= 33% criminal's fault+ 67% justice system's fault
4th offense and beyond= 20% criminal's fault+ 80% justice system's fault

What do you do with the miscreants that's first crime is petty larceny, he serves his time or gets probation, second time, it's simple assault, he serves his time, third offence, it's another petty larceny, then the big one on the fourth go around. Aggravated assault with a firearm. Where did the system fail?

There are many that will do the little deeds for some time and then for whatever reason, they jump into the big leagues.

They should have never had a fourth chance and I'm not even sure about the third time either. This cycle has to be broken and if there's not at least a 3 strike law, they will continue. What's the incentive to try to turn your life around? They certainly aren't afraid of the judicial system as it's implemented now.

How about a 3 strike law and it must be served in a federal prison? I bet that would get their attention.

iH8DemLibz · Jun 4, 2016

If the first domino had kept his hands to himself and didn't commit assault and battery on the second domino, all the other dominos would remain upright.

People talk about battered gun owner syndrome. Same thing with crime. Folks are starting to believe other people are at fault.

I get and agree with the whole judicial system and revolving door thing, but it's a far removed, secondary, issue.

And I'm still convinced it comes down to votes. Any politician who votes to put ONE criminal away risks loosing TWENTY family member votes come election time.

good guy 176 · Jun 4, 2016

The dude who comes to our hood had best get it right the first time cause there won't be a second chance and no one in the chain will be held responsible.

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