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If I were you I would move heaven and earth if you have to to attend tomorrow's meeting. If you do, and have not already written the check, you may want to think twice about dropping that kind of coin with your attorney.

Do yourself a favor and do it yourself. Then spend the $$ on a nice Sig to celebrate.
Yeah, this. Not saying you may not have comfort in the hands of an attorney ... but once you digest the format and flow of these hearings in person, you'll see that it's more like attending a PTA meeting (with that annoying assistant principal being armed).

Mr. Stoveman encouraged me to attend, and I did, and it was a very good thing to have done. Plus, Crownsville is beautiful this time of year.
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Yeah, this. Not saying you may not have comfort in the hands of an attorney ... but once you digest the format and flow of these hearings in person, you'll see that it's more like attending a PTA meeting (with that annoying assistant principal being armed).

Mr. Stoveman encouraged me to attend, and I did, and it was a very good thing to have done. Plus, Crownsville is beautiful this time of year.






Plus it will totally piss you off when the following happens:

1. Your attorney requests that your hearing is in closed session so that the General Public can't witness what a terrible job they will do.
2. Because your attorney requested a closed session hearing you will go last.
3. Because you are going last you get to sit through all the "Johnny Sweatpants" types who successfully do what you are trying to do WITHOUT an attorney.
4. After about the fourth or fifth Johnny Sweatpants you are going to be pissed that you are stroking a four figure check to said attorney.
5. You leave the meeting successful but knowing that P.T. Barnum was very correct.
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OK, what is the PT Barnum quote?
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OK, what is the PT Barnum quote?



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My initial application was mailed 5/9/18. I have heard absolutely nothing. Should I call someone? Sent certified return receipt.
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My initial application was mailed 5/9/18. I have heard absolutely nothing. Should I call someone? Sent certified return receipt.
Referring to your application for a hearing, or your application with the MSP for your permit? Presuming you've received your permit and you're talking about requesting a board hearing: frustrating, but perfectly normal. I was at least two months before receiving an acknowledgement of my request (it came by email), and the it was another long-ish wait for more communication about the date for an actual hearing. So ... be patient. This is ALL about patience.
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Referring to your application for a hearing, or your application with the MSP for your permit? Presuming you've received your permit and you're talking about requesting a board hearing: frustrating, but perfectly normal. I was at least two months before receiving an acknowledgement of my request (it came by email), and the it was another long-ish wait for more communication about the date for an actual hearing. So ... be patient. This is ALL about patience.
Initial application for the permit.
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If I were you I would move heaven and earth if you have to to attend tomorrow's meeting. If you do, and have not already written the check, you may want to think twice about dropping that kind of coin with your attorney.

Do yourself a favor and do it yourself. Then spend the $$ on a nice Sig to celebrate.
While I do agree with this. The fee was minimal as it was added to other services performed earlier so Iím happy to have someone else in my corner. I was going to do it myself but after she told me what the cost would be, I felt it was worth it. I can take the extra saved money for that Sig, or maybe some belts for the 23e
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July 17th i will go alone to my hearing and do it in open session , i want others to see how things work that may be new to this . If it helps one person that is a net gain .


I have been asking for the MSP put a second business on my permit with them completely ignoring my request . They are simpletons and obstructionist
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Initial application for the permit.
Pretty much the same story, when it comes to hurrying up and waiting. That initial process is theoretically supposed to take no more than 90 days. In my case all of the action (including the first communication of any kind from MSP) didn't happen until we were within a couple of weeks of the end of that 90 day window. Things happened quickly after that (scheduling and conducting my face-to-face meeting with the investigating Trooper, my references being contacted, a request for some additional documents, and the issuing of the permit with the inevitable restrictions).
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