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  • Patattack88

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    Northams soldiers are doing what he tells them to do or they have betrayed him and defected to the other side.
     

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    Northams soldiers are doing what he tells them to do or they have betrayed him and defected to the other side.

    I suspect they're figuring out that they are being used as pawns. They see the democrats they helped elect going into self serving mode rather than fulfilling their campaign promises. Even liberals can't argue that the whole 8 year term for governor is a power grab. International politics put it in perspective too between China's president for life vote and now Russia's "restructuring".
     

    teratos

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    Then you understand why the time is not now. A lot of these questions haven't even been answered by the courts yet. The Constitution provides a pathway for dealing with these issues. Is it slow? Yes it is. It sure a hell beats a civil war.
     

    Surt

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    Then you understand why the time is not now. A lot of these questions haven't even been answered by the courts yet. The Constitution provides a pathway for dealing with these issues. Is it slow? Yes it is. It sure a hell beats a civil war.

    ...and that will also be the answer as they're going door to door confiscating guns and calling you racist if you refuse to comply. The time will never be now when you can convince yourself it will quite probably be tomorrow.

    The 2A always will apply to the tyrants of tomorrow, never the tyrants of today. Why would we want a civil war? I just got comfy on my couch!
     

    smokey

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    ...and that will also be the answer as they're going door to door confiscating guns and calling you racist if you refuse to comply. The time will never be now when you can convince yourself it will quite probably be tomorrow.

    The 2A always will apply to the tyrants of tomorrow, never the tyrants of today. Why would we want a civil war? I just got comfy on my couch!

    I get why someone from muspell would want to burn everything down, but rebuilding from ashes typically does NOT end up in more liberty. The american experiment was something different than the world has really ever seen, and did NOT work in the second revolution(aka civil war 1). The civil war resulted in a hugely strengthened central government as these united states transformed into THE united states.

    Typically power vacuums are filled by warlords and tyrants. Thinking that scrapping our current govt and replacing it will increase liberty(especially when we are THE global superpower) does not fully take this in to account.
     

    Surt

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    You're confusing what I'm saying with what you are assuming is my intent.
     

    teratos

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    ...and that will also be the answer as they're going door to door confiscating guns and calling you racist if you refuse to comply. The time will never be now when you can convince yourself it will quite probably be tomorrow.

    The 2A always will apply to the tyrants of tomorrow, never the tyrants of today. Why would we want a civil war? I just got comfy on my couch!

    In the event of confiscation the Courts would have failed to uphold the 2A, and it would be a reasonable time to boogaloo if we value freedom.
     

    Surt

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    In the event of confiscation the Courts would have failed to uphold the 2A, and it would be a reasonable time to boogaloo if we value freedom.

    That time would have already passed. The AntiDefamation League has already labeled that B word as racist.

    And nobody wants to be racist.
     

    teratos

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    That time would have already passed. The AntiDefamation League has already labeled that B word as racist.

    And nobody wants to be racist.

    How can it be too late when the People are still armed? Everything is racist now.....
     

    Steve_Zissou

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    That time would have already passed. The AntiDefamation League has already labeled that B word as racist.

    And nobody wants to be racist.

    That's why I prefer to refer to that silliness as the "zoboomafoo"
     

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    Surt

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    I’m not convinced these Dems will hold off on confiscation until the court has ruled. They KNOW they are attacking the 2A and just don’t gaf. fred55

    They know the courts are on their side, too. We live in a post-law socieity where the President now is being impeached for exposing the corporate abuses and corruption of the Democrats, when his predecessors was caught running guns to Mexican drug lords to kill Federal border patrol agents and nothing came of it.

    It's not about the laws, it's about who gets to pick and choose the laws they care about.
     

    babalou

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    exactly

    When lefties/anarchists start feeling the personal pinch on their individual freedoms, that's when you can seduce them to the dark side: constitutionalism, or at least something like libertarianism that we can get along with. Most lefties have never been anything but coddled, and it's a real wake up call when something they want is shown to be at risk because of LEFTY authoritarianism.

    like that saying about after the takeover, the ones up front who did the legwork like Antifa will then be turned upon since they would then be considered a threat
     

    Uncle Duke

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    I’m not convinced these Dems will hold off on confiscation until the court has ruled. They KNOW they are attacking the 2A and just don’t gaf. fred55

    Nor am I. And of course we want and need favorable court rulings. The alternatives to favorable court rulings are but two---one being acceptance of an abolished 2A, in practice or in fact. The second is war, in an attempt to salvage or recapture the freedoms that the 2A was intended to provide and ensure. Neither thought is comforting. But the longer the SCOTUS takes to hear cases that could yield any applicable rulings, the more emboldened the grabbers are likely to become. There is at present, increasingly little reason for them to do otherwise.
     

    EDA98

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    Define "The Left" here.

    The truly, truly committed card-carrying communists and socialists in this country are extremely pro-2A. You can't carry out a successful revolution and seize the means of production without the firepower to back it up. True Marxists and Trotskyists believe that the individual right to keep and bear arms is absolute as it is necessary for the proletariat to be able to instigate revolution whenever necessary to prevent crony-communism and crony-socialism of the likes that the USSR saw from Stalin onward. All in all, they believe in the 2A for the same reason most of us do, to keep the government from getting too big for their britches. The difference is the economic and social outcomes of our belief systems. Crony capitalism is far easier to regulate and correct than crony communism as we've seen in every instance ever attempted.
    This is a fascinating point and I’m surprised no one else really commented on it. Neo-commies or whatever seem to think communism is for a big government to provide for the people. But in reality the idea was for the people to become the government and all benefit each other. Which would include having to keep any government needed to accomplish that under the people’s control.
     

    BlueHeeler

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    They will screw it up , Just looking for a fight any fight and were going to get chit splattered

    Yes. They are not principled individuals. They only want chaos and violence as seen in DC at the Trump inauguration and the Demand Free Speech rally.

    Both times they had zero opposition so they started attacking parked cars, innocent people driving, store fronts, public property, and instigating the police.
     

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