New Turkish 20ga shotgun again

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  • arbud

    Active Member
    Jan 27, 2008
    809
    Towson
    Alright guys please lets just deal with facts not unfounded judgements here.
    I posted Friday that I had just picked up my Turkish 20ga semi auto shot gun. 90% of the reviews were very good. parts availability was the main problem. If I could not get parts for it I would just chuck it. Anyway
    Was excited but a little skeptical also. So I go to Continental Arms with 10 rounds of Remington managed recoil Ultimate defense 000 buckshot.
    every shot fed perfectly. 7 of 10 failed to eject all the way. They were like held up on the rim of the shell. Easily cleared but not real desirable for home defense.
    Came out to the counter and asked if they wanted to buy my gun cheap sort of kiddingly. They both saw what it was and said just fire it more and use hi brass full strength ammo and I should not have any problems.
    Saw where the fps of the ammo I used was 1160. They both said to use Federal 000 buckshot which says 1200 fps. Is that enough to make a difference? I saw RIo makes a 00 I think round that is listed at 1340 fps. Should I just use slugs and go to a different range. What do you all think besides I should have bought a Bennelli. Bud
     

    tallen702

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 3, 2012
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    In the boonies of MoCo
    All firearms have a "break in" period where tolerances will be a little tight. Field strip it, clean it, lube it, and then dump a box of 1300fps bird shot through it to give it a bit of exercise. That should get things going well. My Imbel-made 1911A1 took about 100 rounds to "break in" with stove-pipe ejections and the like. After that, it operated flawlessly for years.
     

    cww

    Active Member
    Jan 28, 2010
    543
    It’s new correct, so a little more break in can’t hurt as an attempt and it won’t hurt the resale to run a box or two more. They’ve most likely seen the issue before or they wouldn’t have so quickly gave you the advice. A slight difference can make a difference in a finicky fun whether it be brand of ammo, style of crimp, or load. IMO.
     

    dink

    Member
    Mar 30, 2014
    63
    First off...when your load says 3BK....that doesn't mean triple 000. It means #3 buck. Largest factory buckshot load you'll find for 20ga is #1BK. There's nothing with a O. While the advice on break in is certainly on point...good semis usually only sometimes have trouble with light target loads. Not really a good sign with anything heavier than that.
     

    94hokie

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    Mar 29, 2015
    832
    Severna Park, MD
    What type of recoil system is it? Gas or inertia. Generally I try to use heavier loads to break in a shotgun and then drop down in power to find out what the break point is for reliable function.
     

    tallen702

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    Sep 3, 2012
    5,120
    In the boonies of MoCo
    First off...when your load says 3BK....that doesn't mean triple 000. It means #3 buck. Largest factory buckshot load you'll find for 20ga is #1BK. There's nothing with a O. While the advice on break in is certainly on point...good semis usually only sometimes have trouble with light target loads. Not really a good sign with anything heavier than that.

    I run a Turkish-made Tristar Raptor 12ga Semi for when I jump shoot ducks/geese from my kayak on the Monocacy. Cheap enough that I don't cry if it goes in the drink and can't be recovered. Turkish, 12ga gas operation.

    I bring this up because holy cow was that sucker in need of cleaning before firing. I'm not sure what kind of lube they used at the factory, but it seemed more like cutting oil than gun-lube as it was sticky. I think OP needs to open it up, clean it really well, put it back together, and run some shells again. That'll be proof positive. Perhaps the action is dragging at the very end of the stroke because it's not properly lubed. That would cause stove-pipes due to the lack of inertia to kick the hulls out quick enough. Had a similar issue with a buddy's AR build. Bolt and BCG were covered in sticky oil instead of lube. Probably leftover cutting oil from the CNC process. Once it got cleaned up, it ran fine.
     
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    John from MD

    American Patriot
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    May 12, 2005
    22,960
    Socialist State of Maryland
    I agree with Tallen. I have owned several Turkish shotguns including a Tristar Sporting 12ga and they were a mess inside. Clean it up good and then, as another poster stated, put a box of fast loads through it and it should polish off the rough edges. After several boxes of ammo, look for wear marks on the action bar, piston etc and put a dab of light grease on them. Once broken in, my guns all ran without any failures.
     

    arbud

    Active Member
    Jan 27, 2008
    809
    Towson
    ok so yesterday completely cleaned it. Bought some federal power shock. All 15 ran fine.
     

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