Washington Post: Gun Control isn't dead

RCH · Apr 17, 2012

Apparently they are giving up on their Democrat cronies in the Legislature and are now putting their money on the courts to maintain gun control... :mad54:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/is-gun-control-dead/2012/04/13/gIQAQTEgFT_story.html

If you want to see the second page (and bypass the Post's register crap) just hit the print icon at the top of the opinion.

gmhowell · Apr 17, 2012

Some fact based stuff in the first ~60% of the piece, but most of the historical analysis on page two was just... bad.

Gray Peterson · Apr 17, 2012

gmhowell said:
Some fact based stuff in the first ~60% of the piece, but most of the historical analysis on page two was just... bad.

Explain better.

gmhowell · Apr 17, 2012

Gray Peterson said:
Explain better.

Ok, let's see, some pretty bland but pointless facts: Clinton and others credit the AWB with giving the US a GOP majority House in 1994. Gun control today is something the Democrats generally try to avoid mentioning (not universal, but as a broad statement, true.) Lots of states have recognized the right to carry in the past ~25 years. Heller was a big turning point in 2A law.

But then we get into the remainder of the article, where the author tries to be too clever by half. "Guns have been regulated since the founding of the US." Ok, but there's a big damned difference between banning a person from buying a handgun and having them show up and prove that their militia weapon is clean and in good shape and ready to kill some Brits. Author then goes on to somehow excuse modern regulations with some archaic ones that ban gun ownership by protesters and minorities. :wtf:

Then we get the implication that Prohibition era Chicago (ha!) and Tombstone were horrific in spite of strong gun laws. The further implication is that even more laws are needed. And ignores that the reality of Tombstone and Deadwood featured far less gunplay than entertainment set in those places. Dysentery was far more likely to kill than acute lead poisoning.

In toto, I'm not exactly sure what the central thesis of the author's piece is. I guess it is in the closing "in a hostile political environment, the courts have long been gun-control advocates’ best friend," but neither the hostile environment nor court friendliness has been illustrated very well.

GNLaFrance · Apr 17, 2012

"James Madison, the author of the Second Amendment, and his generation restricted the possession of guns by political dissenters and racial minorities."

Many gun control laws do that today. Not by specifically saying that minorities may not possess guns, but by restricting certain classes of firearms, or restricting certain features, so that only people above a certain level of wealth can afford to buy one. Another tactic is to make the requirements to buy and own a gun so expensive and difficult that poor people can't afford to even qualify.

gmhowell · Apr 17, 2012

The 1968 Gun Control Act is certainly the result of racist fears of rioting blacks.

WeaponsCollector · Apr 17, 2012

What a flawed article, there can be no doubt the Washington ComPost has an anti-gun agenda!

EL1227 · Apr 17, 2012

The last two paragraphs are telling ...

Second Amendment experts predict that the next major gun case to go to the Supreme Court will be a challenge to one of the remaining state or local laws that effectively bar the carrying of concealed weapons. {Woollard} Given that nearly every state allows almost anyone to carry guns on the streets, what the justices have to say about concealed carry will be less significant than what they say about the role of the courts in scrutinizing gun laws. Will the justices respect the long-standing tradition of gun control? Or will they create novel, untested hurdles for such laws?

In a hostile political environment, the courts have long been gun-control advocates’ best friend. Whether that 200-year friendship can last much longer will be the question that next confronts the Supreme Court.

Just like The New Yorker article posted earlier on MDS written by Jill LePore, the author, Adam Winkler, uses selected 2A facts and history to obfuscate his intelectual goal that is summarized in the last two paragraphs above. The fact that he is writing in the Washington Post and that SCOTUS reads the 'paper of record' indicates to me that his article, along with LePore's article and Obama's recent attacks, are all designed to influence SCOTUS thinking.

Adam Winkler is is a professor of constitutional law at UCLA law school ... sound familiar ... like Obamarx, a constitutional scholar. :rolleyes:

He is also a card-carrying member of John Podesta's left-wing Center for American Progress. and has written several other articles and books critical of 2A and recently the Zimmerman case.

Tin-foil hat freely doned this AM ... :tinfoil:

Semper Noctem · Apr 17, 2012

Second

EL1227 · Apr 17, 2012

But wait, There's MORE !!!

Adam Winkler - NYT - Mar 21, 2012 - writing on 'Stand Your Ground'

Focus Must Be Narrower

Florida’s law goes much further and encourages vigilantism. It tells people, who today are increasingly likely to be carrying concealed weapons, that they can pretend to be police officers and use their guns to protect and serve the broader public.

Ahhhh, Counselor ... conjecture !!!

Between this twisted analysis and others he's written all the way back to Heller, I think we can do away with our collective tin-foil hats with regards to Winkler's opinions and their desired affect on the courts.

From CATO ...
Gun Rights and the Constitution: Was Heller Insignificant?

Now, Winkler appears to be spinning the news by making it appear that post-Heller courts are, in effect, following his (rejected) standard. That's Winkler's prerogative, but the New York Times is not supposed to be so gullible.

Correct ... the NYT expects their readership to be that gullible.

Boxcab · Apr 17, 2012

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

-Bill Shakespeare

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