Recommendations For AR

Mwzephi · Dec 22, 2019

I finally bought my first AR. I’ve only gone shooting once and it was your typical 75’ range. Loved it and now am looking to make the next steps. I have the Vortex 3x Spit Fire scope and it’s nice but I am considering options for when I finally get a chance to stretch my legs and go 100yd or more. Can you add a flip over magnifier for longer distances being my current is 3x already? Also looking at new trigger options. I’ve received 50/50 feedback from friends on drop-ins vs standard. Any drawbacks on drop-ins? Would a different muzzle break really make a difference?

teratos · Dec 22, 2019

I'll not comment on optics, as I am an optic Padawan. A good brake can cut muzzle rise significantly. Do you really need that on a 5.56? Up to you. There are tons of triggers out there. The LaRue MBT is a great trigger with an excellent price point. You can't go wrong with Geissele, either. There are different triggers for different applications. If you are plinking and like going fast, their rapid fire or SSA-E are great. If you are more interested in bench shooting, the G2S is a great option. I, personally, am not a fan of cassette triggers.

Mwzephi · Dec 22, 2019

Most friends have recommended Geissele triggers. I was looking at a Timney single stage as well. My thought was if I am spending around $200 plus it can’t be junk but I’ve been wrong in the past lol. I am a beginner with this stuff but was going to try to do the replacement myself. I figure no better way to learn your gun then doing this but also know this isn’t a toy and doing things wrong can be stupid or dangerous. Thoughts on that?

teratos · Dec 22, 2019

Mwzephi said:
Most friends have recommended Geissele triggers. I was looking at a Timney single stage as well. My thought was if I am spending around $200 plus it can’t be junk but I’ve been wrong in the past lol. I am a beginner with this stuff but was going to try to do the replacement myself. I figure no better way to learn your gun then doing this but also know this isn’t a toy and doing things wrong can be stupid or dangerous. Thoughts on that?

It's not that complicated to replace a trigger. Install it wrong and it simply won't work. Check out the SOTAR (School of the American Rifle) forum. Lots of good videos and info there. Check out the LaRue MBT trigger. $90, and I like it as much as my Geissele triggers. Take the money you saved, and take a SOTAR class. You will not be disappointed.

https://www.mdshooters.com/forumdisplay.php?f=227

Pale Ryder · Dec 22, 2019

I'd leave the trigger stock at first. Once you determine (your) accuracy at 100, and feel it's not where you like, then make some changes.

Art3 · Dec 22, 2019

With all due respect, it sounds like you've taken her on one date, and are already talking kinky stuff. A lot of AR's shoot 100yd+ just fine with iron sights :innocent0

Why not spend a little time learning what she (and you, with her) can do before taking things to the next level :shrug:

If you've got gun money burning a whole in your pocket now, ammo is never a bad investment, a long with a lifetime supply of Freedom Magazines.

TheOriginalMexicanBob · Dec 22, 2019

Basics, basics, basics. Learn the basics...learn them well. Once you've become confidant and competent with the rifle, then consider what options you might want to try. The more you change and add on, the chances of reliability issues increase. Don't let gadgets replace skill. Decide what actually fits your intended uses. Less is more.

Nothing replaces practice and skill building.

Bob A · Dec 22, 2019

Art3 said:
If you've got gun money burning a whole in your pocket now, ammo is never a bad investment, a long with a lifetime supply of Freedom Magazines.

Right. In before the ban.

Cash is king - no records.

Alea Jacta Est · Dec 22, 2019

OMBob just offered the PhD short course for new gun owners in general and those new to an AR specifically.

Stuff will never be more efficacious than training/familiarity/muscle memory. Never. Ever.

Folks who I trust to have my six can work thecontrols forwards, backwards and in the dark. They ID and remedy failures so fast it almost seems like there wasn’t one.

Buying new stuff for your AR is a big part of the fun of running one.

I didn’t let my daughter have anything that wasn’t stock. No trigger upgrade. No optics. Nothing. Iron sights. She’s patiently worked to improve her skill and knowledge. She took the Armorer course from Chad as soon as she got her carbine.

Iron sights for my old eyes are good to about 250m. For our son the Marine...say 600m with iron sights.

Original Mexican Roberto is spot on. Spend early AR relationship investing in range time and ammo. Then you’ll really know what you need want and can buy once and cry once. Otherwise it’s a constant tail chase after the next great AR doodad.

Good luck.

Bountied · Dec 22, 2019

teratos said:
I'll not comment on optics, as I am an optic Padawan. A good brake can cut muzzle rise significantly. Do you really need that on a 5.56? Up to you. There are tons of triggers out there. The LaRue MBT is a great trigger with an excellent price point. You can't go wrong with Geissele, either. There are different triggers for different applications. If you are plinking and like going fast, their rapid fire or SSA-E are great. If you are more interested in bench shooting, the G2S is a great option. I, personally, am not a fan of cassette triggers.

America gold is the best trigger.

3paul10 · Dec 22, 2019

teratos said:
I'll not comment on optics, as I am an optic Padawan. A good brake can cut muzzle rise significantly. Do you really need that on a 5.56? Up to you. There are tons of triggers out there. The LaRue MBT is a great trigger with an excellent price point. You can't go wrong with Geissele, either. There are different triggers for different applications. If you are plinking and like going fast, their rapid fire or SSA-E are great. If you are more interested in bench shooting, the G2S is a great option. I, personally, am not a fan of cassette

I just want to know what a Padawan is.....is that a fan of AR pistons?? Help me Doc...

Bountied · Dec 22, 2019

3paul10 said:
teratos said:

I'll not comment on optics, as I am an optic Padawan. A good brake can cut muzzle rise significantly. Do you really need that on a 5.56? Up to you. There are tons of triggers out there. The LaRue MBT is a great trigger with an excellent price point. You can't go wrong with Geissele, either. There are different triggers for different applications. If you are plinking and like going fast, their rapid fire or SSA-E are great. If you are more interested in bench shooting, the G2S is a great option. I, personally, am not a fan of cassette

I just want to know what a Padawan is.....is that a fan of AR pistons?? Help me Doc...

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Watch star wars nerd.

Mwzephi · Dec 22, 2019

I appreciate the advice. For the record I wasn’t making any changes just trying to learn. No doubt shooting is the best training no and I’ll continue to figure out the fun of shooting

But I do want to learn and make good decisions which is why I ask for your advice based on your experience.

teratos · Dec 22, 2019

I’m a trigger snob. I mess with the triggers in most of my guns. GI triggers suck. If you want a different trigger, go for it.

Training is always a good idea.

3paul10 · Dec 22, 2019

Ah.....I guess I need to watch Star Wars....

danb · Dec 22, 2019

You will be able to hit 2/3 man size steel at 200 yds with the 3x Vortex all day. You really should be able to do out much farther with a 3x. But if you want to go to 6x get something like the 1-6x Vortex Crossfire or the Primary Arms or Burris equivalent.

Muzzle brake makes (almost) no difference on an AR. Many people will tell you muzzle rise is because you are holding it wrong. The barrel is in line with the bolt, there is little upward pull. If you hold it "wrong" it rolls up your shoulder. I have a 1/2 muzzle brake 1/2 flash hider on mine. A lot of it is bad-ass looks and the placebo effect if you ask me.

The main reason not to get a really nice Geissele 2 stage trigger is that it will spoil you for other triggers. You will learn to hate all of them, which means you will need to get nice triggers from now on. Brownells still has the 2-stage on sale for $150 (https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/triggers-parts/triggers/ar-15-enhanced-triggers-prod67223.aspx). Do It. On the other hand, if you want to learn trigger manipulation on a really gritty shitty heavy trigger, just buy a cheap revolver.

I would avoid drop-in triggers, for now.

Alea Jacta Est · Dec 22, 2019

DocT is a pretty savvy fella.

My two cents trigger wise is MBT LaRue is a best value and a great trigger.

teratos · Dec 22, 2019

Nnztg8r said:
DocT is a pretty savvy fella.

My two cents trigger wise is MBT LaRue is a best value and a great trigger.

You are too kind, sir.

Yes, great trigger.

Alea Jacta Est · Dec 22, 2019

teratos said:
You are too kind, sir.

Yes, great trigger.

Did I forget humble too??

teratos · Dec 22, 2019

Nnztg8r said:
Did I forget humble too??

Funny, I have a plaque on my desk that a patient gave me that says “stay humble”. One of my favorite gifts.

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