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Old August 1st, 2020, 04:29 PM #11
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Decided to get the VP9 and the 365 XL
At-a-boy!!! We knew you would do the right thing.
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I still don't understand the P365XL.

Yes, it feels better in the shop, but SHOOTING the P365, it is fine. I have put 200 rounds through mine in a single range session.
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Decided to get the VP9 and the 365 XL
You found someplace that had them both in this market?

Let us know which one you end up liking the most.
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Yes, gunbroker.com LOL
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Iím torn...help!
I have a P2000sk(same form factor) and a Sig P365. The P2000sk is a great gun but it's been in the back of my safe since I bought the P365.

Worlds apart carry-ability-wise.
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I still don't understand the P365XL.

Yes, it feels better in the shop, but SHOOTING the P365, it is fine. I have put 200 rounds through mine in a single range session.
I passed on the 365 due to grip length. Yes, I get you can use the magazines from the 365XL, but why would I want to give up sight radius and barrel length, when that isn't the hard part to conceal? Plus you get the flat trigger, if that's your thing, and the option for mounting optics, again if that's your thing.

I also carry IWB 9 out of 12 months. Being able to reach down and actually grab the grip and unholster is important to me. I don't pocket carry, and the 365 IWB is really hard to get a purchase on.

I would like a 365 for those times when pocket carry is the best option. And I realize I'd be sacrificing a bit. I wouldn't carry it IWB or OWB without the 12 round magazine. At that point why not pick up the extra sight radius and velocity?

To me, the G43x and 365XL are idea daily carry options. Anything bigger, or smaller, fall into a niche carry situation.
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I passed on the 365 due to grip length. Yes, I get you can use the magazines from the 365XL, but why would I want to give up sight radius and barrel length, when that isn't the hard part to conceal? Plus you get the flat trigger, if that's your thing, and the option for mounting optics, again if that's your thing.

I also carry IWB 9 out of 12 months. Being able to reach down and actually grab the grip and unholster is important to me. I don't pocket carry, and the 365 IWB is really hard to get a purchase on.

I would like a 365 for those times when pocket carry is the best option. And I realize I'd be sacrificing a bit. I wouldn't carry it IWB or OWB without the 12 round magazine. At that point why not pick up the extra sight radius and velocity?

To me, the G43x and 365XL are idea daily carry options. Anything bigger, or smaller, fall into a niche carry situation.
I don't carry much, only outside MD.

But I have not noticed any problem getting a grip on the 365 with 10 round mag.

How much more velocity are you getting?

Sight radius? Are you bullseye shooting with it????

I just don't see bigger for a carry pistol. If I go bigger, I would move to .45 ACP.
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I don't carry much, only outside MD.

But I have not noticed any problem getting a grip on the 365 with 10 round mag.

How much more velocity are you getting?

Sight radius? Are you bullseye shooting with it????

I just don't see bigger for a carry pistol. If I go bigger, I would move to .45 ACP.
I carry just about everyday. Getting a grip on a small framed gun in an IWB is a real problem.

The reality is the vast majority of folks who carry never have to draw, let alone under any kind of pressure.

I've had my G19 setup in an IWB holster that felt comfortable and hid the grip well. I tried to draw from it and the belt prevented me from getting a full grip. Could I unholster the weapon? Certainly. But it was such a tight space to get it if one added stress it could be easily missed.

So those are my thoughts. If one is going to carry the 12/15 rounder magazine all the time the 365 makes little sense. Why give up anything velocity or sight radius if you don't have to? Regardless if it is minor or not. The slide is not the hard part to conceal.

But perhaps I'm in the minority. Only have 15 years of carrying nearly every day with 6 different guns.

These thin and larger guns are great. The 365 and smaller Kahrs etc. are more of a security blanket than a usable firearm IMHO. That is why I say the 365 would be a niche for me...just like anything larger than the 365XL/43X would be. I don't need to lug around a thick full grip/framed gun. But there are OWB situations where it is no worse than a smaller gun. So why not pick up the benefits of a full size gun?

Just food for thought.
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The 365 is so small, you can OWB carry it. No need for IWB since no one is going "deep cover".
Regardless, if the grip is too small for someone (like me), it doesn't make sense to even own one.
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The 365 is so small, you can OWB carry it. No need for IWB since no one is going "deep cover".
Regardless, if the grip is too small for someone (like me), it doesn't make sense to even own one.
I suppose if you have to tuck your shirt in you'd pocket carry one?
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