Ak 12ga. Shotgun?

Doitsouthstyle · Sep 18, 2016

Considering a Ak style 12 gauge as my next/ maybe last before election purchase. Looking for input. I know options are Saiga, Verp, Century Arms Fury 1&2... Any other suggestions? Considering price? Manufacturers warranty? After market following (magazines, furniture, etc...) not the mention I am a Md resident and its compliance. What do you own or as a non owner would would you buy and why?

JohnnyE · Sep 18, 2016

I'm a Saiga 12 owner. This platform is not really GTG right out of the box. They are military-pedigree arms meant for full-power ammo, so if you want to fire lighter loads, like skeet rounds, they'll need some work. There are kits available that claim to help you shoot light loads, but they're band aids, and of questionable utility. A proper job includes checking, and if needed tending to, the gas ports in barrel, and performing some profiling and polishing of the BCG. I took care of all of these issues and my Saiga 12's run smoothly and reliably. They are loads of fun, but you have to tune them. Check out the Saiga 12 forum. I got a ton of useful advice there.

BradMacc82 · Sep 18, 2016

I also have a Saiga 12. With a little bit of work, they can be very fun. And sticking with buck or slugs, almost as reliable as death and taxes.

The vepr12 is probably a little more 'user friendly' due to the slightly different gas system and magazine well. But I got a good deal on my Saiga 12, so that's what I chose.

thomfantomas · Sep 18, 2016

I would vote also for Saiga! Like the one above said saiga-12.com for info! Create a WTB ad,Make 922r compliant and find some izhmash magazines.they arent cheap especially in 12g but can be obtained and more reliable than any american made mags!

CZ4ME · Sep 19, 2016

I too am a Saiga-12 owner. Mine was purchased when prices were low and before any type of bans were put in place. Gunbroker has a few of them listed at somewhat reasonable prices.

erwos · Sep 19, 2016

VEPR 12 is a MUCH better out of the box pick.

LimaVictor · Sep 19, 2016

erwos said:
VEPR 12 is a MUCH better out of the box pick.

I agree. Out of the box, Vepr 12.
Shoot some hi-velocity shells (1300fps+) to break it in it'll cycle anything after that.

rob-cubed · Sep 19, 2016

VEPR wins the day.

The Saiga requires the following: an auto-gas regulator, or you won't be able to switch between loads without manually setting the gas plug. The rock-and-lock mags are not as friendly as the VEPR, especially when fully loaded on a closed bolt. The LRBHO is a nice feature of the VEPR that the Saiga won't have without some surgery and added expense.

That said they are both solid Russian designs and will run equally well once broken in. Really there is more that is similar between them, than different.

The Fury, I haven't owned and can't vouch for.

Nodak Kid · Sep 19, 2016

been looking for a Vepr 12. Does anybody hear know if any ips have them in stock?

Sirex · Sep 21, 2016

I would vote for the Vepr 12. Stay away from the DDI. I don't know much about the fury but I have read mixed reviews. Most everything on the V12 has been good. I shot one and it was very accurate out to 100 yards and only had one failure to eject do to the deformation of a Winchester low brass hull

rangerone314 · Sep 26, 2016

thinking of another shotgun..

I have a Mossberg 500...

Thinking about another shotgun...

So post-2013, the VEPR-12 & Saiga 12 are good to go in Maryland as far as legal?

TheGunnyRet · Sep 26, 2016

Nodak Kid said:
been looking for a Vepr 12. Does anybody hear know if any ips have them in stock?

Atlantic I think has some in stock...Also Classic Firearms...

Brownl345 · Sep 26, 2016

Nodak Kid said:
been looking for a Vepr 12. Does anybody hear know if any ips have them in stock?

Try 2A Sales. They typically keep them in stock.

protegeV · Sep 26, 2016

Duffys

erwos · Sep 26, 2016

rangerone314 said:
So post-2013, the VEPR-12 & Saiga 12 are good to go in Maryland as far as legal?

Yes.

But, speaking as a Saiga 12 owner, there's really not much to recommend to the Saiga 12 at this point vs the VEPR 12. The VEPR 12 essentially comes with all the upgrades that Saiga 12 owners were drooling over five years ago. The only "advantage" Saigas had were drums, and VEPRs have those now.

HCOR · Mar 28, 2017

I know this is a few months old, most places showing sold out. anyone seen or know of a vepr or catamount at a local shop for sale? seems like I'm always a day late lol

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