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Old November 14th, 2015, 10:40 PM #1
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IL House Resolution 0855: 2ND AMEND-NOT INDIVIDUAL RIGHT

Fasci --I mean "members" of the Illinois House are attempting to pass a resolution urging the SCOTUS to interpret the 2nd Amendment as a collective right instead of an individual one...

Last update lists it as sent to the Rule Committee, which is currently made up of 3 Dems and 2 Reps.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/Bill...ionID=88&GA=99

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HOUSE RESOLUTION


2 WHEREAS, Gun violence is an ever present problem in the
3 State, as well as nationwide; an example of which is 8 persons
4 dying in Chicago in one week in October due to gun violence;
5 and

6 WHEREAS, In the past few years, court rulings, including
7 the United States Supreme Court in District of Columbia V.
8 Heller, in interpreting the Second Amendment to the United
9 States Constitution have overturned long standing precedent,
10 which had supported state and local authority to deny gun
11 possession when necessary to promote and protect public safety;
12 in order to reach its decision, the 5 member majority of the
13 United States Supreme Court either ignored or misinterpreted
14 much of the clear and plain wording of the Second Amendment;
15 and

16 WHEREAS, As stated by U.S. Supreme Court Justice Stevens in
17 his well-thought out dissent on behalf of 4 Justices in Heller:
18 "The Second Amendment was adopted to protect the right of the
19 people of each of the several States to maintain a
20 well-regulated militia. It was a response to concerns raised
21 during ratification of the Constitution that the power of
22 Congress to disarm the state militias and create a national
23 standing army posed an intolerable threat to the sovereignty of




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1 the several States. Neither the text of the Amendment nor the
2 arguments advanced by its proponents evidenced the slightest
3 interest in limiting any legislature's authority to regulate
4 private civilian uses of firearms. Specifically, there is no
5 indication that the Framers of the Amendment intended to
6 enshrine the common-law right of self-defense in the
7 Constitution."; rather the Second Amendment's original purpose
8 was to act as a check on federal gun-making policy, not to
9 prevent individual states from creating gun policy as they saw
10 fit; and

11 WHEREAS, The legal view of the Second Amendment as a
12 collective, militia right, and not an individual right, held
13 for over 200 years until the Heller decision in 2008, which
14 invalidated a law barring individuals from possessing a handgun
15 not registered before the law took effect and annual
16 registrations for the remaining handguns; and

17 WHEREAS, The Heller decision and other pro-firearm
18 industry court rulings have resulted in a proliferation of guns
19 in numerous communities and have diminished the security and
20 freedom of our citizens to enjoy a life free of gun violence;
21 living with the fear of gun violence is contrary to living in a
22 free society; high levels of gun violence are a threat to the
23 security of whole communities; and





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1 WHEREAS, The cost of gun violence has been pushed onto
2 everyone except the people and companies that produce and sell
3 firearms; the firearms industry benefits financially when more
4 guns are sold; more firearms in circulation leads to more gun
5 crimes, homicides, and suicides to the extent that gun-related
6 deaths will soon exceed the number of deaths in automotive
7 crashes; but the Heller decision effectively said that most of
8 the Second Amendment should be disregarded in favor of the part
9 that is most profitable to the firearms industry, "the right of
10 the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"; and

11 WHEREAS, Throughout the history of the United States,
12 federal and state laws have regularly placed restrictions on
13 who can legally own, possess, and use firearms; even prior to
14 the ratification of the U.S. Constitution, gun control laws
15 were enacted; therefore laws restricting gun access are not
16 anomalous to American law; and

17 WHEREAS, Before these court decisions, state legislatures
18 had been able to pass laws restricting gun access if it was in
19 the best interests of public safety; therefore, be it

20 RESOLVED, BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
21 NINETY-NINTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, that we
22 urge the courts, especially the United States Supreme Court, to
23 restore interpretation of the Second Amendment as a right




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1 afforded to state-sponsored militias that as Justice Stevens
2 stated in his Heller dissent, " ... it does not curtail the
3 Legislature's power to regulate the non-military use and
4 ownership of weapons ... ".
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Old November 14th, 2015, 10:42 PM #2
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Wasn't this issue settled already in the Supreme Court? They confirmed that it is an individual right. I think it was the Heller case.
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Wasn't this issue settled already in the Supreme Court? They confirmed that it is an individual right. I think it was the Heller case.
They want Heller overturned.
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The new generation of students wants the first amendment overturned also.
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The new generation of students wants to burn the entire Constitution and bill of
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Aha. repeal the bill of rights?? She should be shot for Treason!

Treason= "the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign"


This.....http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/Am...stick/pr3.html
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Just deport her.

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