Straightbolt
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Great deal on quality German made .303 British ammo. https://www.sgammo.com/product/303-...lus-ammo-174-grain-bi-metal-fmj-1980s-vintage
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Impressive but why would Germany make mil spec or looking 303 Brit??? 
todbiker
Ultimate Member
Impressive but why would Germany make mil spec or looking 303 Brit???
Because you told them to Drill Sergeant?!!!
Because you told them to Drill Sergeant?!!!
Nope 303 is a pu$$y round compared to their own 8mm.
Ballistic wise it's almost a carbon copy of the 30-40.
todbiker
Ultimate Member
Nope 303 is a pu$$y round compared to their own 8mm.
Ballistic wise it's almost a carbon copy of the 30-40.
If someone was shooting at me, I think I'd rather have 10 rds of the pu$$y round vs 5 of the manly round.
Nope 303 is a pu$$y round compared to their own 8mm.
Ballistic wise it's almost a carbon copy of the 30-40.
Well...the description does say that it was made by "MEN"
If someone was shooting at me, I think I'd rather have 10 rds of the pu$$y round vs 5 of the manly round.
You lose..........
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_42#/media/File:MG42-1.jpg
Threeband
The M1 Does My Talking
I'll never forget some old black and white newsreel footage from the 1950s I once saw. It was filmed on a Royal Navy ship in the North Atlantic. Her decks were stacked high with crates and crates and crates and crates and crates of .303, all surplus from the war.
There on deck a crew of Jolly Limejuice Sailors were passing the crates along from the stack, man to man until... fling! ... splash! ... into the wave-tossed North Atlantic, all that lovely .303...
There on deck a crew of Jolly Limejuice Sailors were passing the crates along from the stack, man to man until... fling! ... splash! ... into the wave-tossed North Atlantic, all that lovely .303...
Threeband
The M1 Does My Talking
You know, Vickers water cooled guns were able to maintain continuous fire over periods of 24 hours and more. That's a lot of .303... about a shipload.
todbiker
Ultimate Member
I was actually talking about a head to head with bolt action rifles, hence the 10 rds vs 5 reference
Oldcarjunkie
R.I.P
Bought some, thanks !
True, that has more to do with the gun and not the round. Nothing wrong with them but the 8mm is closer to the 06 which to "me" is the perfect round. Meaning ass vs. recoil.
Biggfoot44
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- Aug 2, 2009
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I'll go out on a limb, I put forth that 8x57 , .303, .30-06, and 7.62x54R all round off as equivalent rounds . ( And in the old doesn't mean ineffective department , .30-40 will do 97% of anything a .30cal Mil round round need to do .)
Yeah , MG-42 were fine weapons . But BREN and Lewis guns also have admirable real world track records .
And along Todbiker's line of discussion -
The M98 Mauser was foundational to virtually all subsequent bolt actions( meaning the actual actions .)
The SMLE was the epitome of bolt action rifles ( meaning the complete rifle) for actual combat .
Yeah , MG-42 were fine weapons . But BREN and Lewis guns also have admirable real world track records .
And along Todbiker's line of discussion -
The M98 Mauser was foundational to virtually all subsequent bolt actions( meaning the actual actions .)
The SMLE was the epitome of bolt action rifles ( meaning the complete rifle) for actual combat .
Compared to the K98 or 03 Springfield it lacked strength so I wouldn't call it the epitome. You, like me, are biased, just on opposite sides.
Threeband
The M1 Does My Talking
I've heard it said that the Mauser was the best hunting rifle, the Springfield was the best target rifle, and the Lee Enfield was the best combat rifle.
Biggfoot44
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- Aug 2, 2009
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SMLE was exactly as strong as it needed to be, with the benefit of smoother, with higher rate of fire .
I agree the Mauser, and Springfield are stronger, easier to scope, and better suited for dedicated target/ sniping rifle . From our modern day perspective those are important qualities, again agreement . Our counter viewpoint is those qualities aren't defining for a general issue infantry rifle .
I agree the Mauser, and Springfield are stronger, easier to scope, and better suited for dedicated target/ sniping rifle . From our modern day perspective those are important qualities, again agreement . Our counter viewpoint is those qualities aren't defining for a general issue infantry rifle .
People love it, I understand... I'm just not one of them.
Not a fan of the Russian either even though I own one and it too does everything it's supposed to do. Getting back to my original curiosity, why would the Germans manufacture this particle batch to what looks to be milspec????
People love it, I understand... I'm just not one of them.
Getting back to my original curiosity, why would the Germans manufacture this particle batch to what looks to be milspec????
I don't know for certain, but I suspect it has/had something to do with British occupying forces in Germany and Berlin after the war. As well as Cold War policies throughout Europe and a desire to be prepared for a need to have plenty of ammo nearby. Other areas of the world needed .303 for their rifles as well and they could find a use for most of it. As well, there were a bunch of full auto weapons using the round.
- May 5, 2008
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1980's date, could be for Afgan Russian war?
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