tc617
USN Sub Vet
I had my 7.5" AR pistol out one day and was asked for my tax stamp by a RSO. When I showed him that it was an AR pistol and he went along his way.
Have you ever had to show your "papers"?
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PapiBarcelona
Ultimate Member
- Jan 1, 2011
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Probably was getting ready to pull out his fugitive recovery badge around his neck.
tc617
USN Sub Vet
Yup... I wasn't shouldering it and didn't even have one of those Sig Braces on it. Just straight KAK Industries buffer tube with a foam cover. It must have been a slow day.
- Dec 20, 2013
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Ditto. In fact, I'm not sure it's even legal for an RSO to demand to see your tax stamp.
Been asked by law enforcement twice.
Once was at a private machine gun shoot on a buddy's property. HCSD showed up and said that they had a report of people shooting machine guns. We told them that that report was true. They looked over the paperwork, drooled over the guns, ripped off a few mags and we're on their way.
Second time was by an off duty state trooper at Elk Neck some years ago. He saw my suppressor, identified himself and asked to see my paperwork. I showed him, and he was good with it.
Technically, neither of them have the right to demand to see my paperwork, but the 2 minutes it took kept them from screwing up my day or week or month with the headaches they can cause.
Anyone else that asks to see my private tax documents for any reason other than curiousity can quite frankly piss up a rope.
Once was at a private machine gun shoot on a buddy's property. HCSD showed up and said that they had a report of people shooting machine guns. We told them that that report was true. They looked over the paperwork, drooled over the guns, ripped off a few mags and we're on their way.
Second time was by an off duty state trooper at Elk Neck some years ago. He saw my suppressor, identified himself and asked to see my paperwork. I showed him, and he was good with it.
Technically, neither of them have the right to demand to see my paperwork, but the 2 minutes it took kept them from screwing up my day or week or month with the headaches they can cause.
Anyone else that asks to see my private tax documents for any reason other than curiousity can quite frankly piss up a rope.
tc617
USN Sub Vet
He was not being a dick or demanding that I provide him a stamp. He more or less came over to my bench and asked, "You do have a stamp for that SBR, correct?" at which point I showed him that it was a pistol and he went back to his business. If I had a SBR with me that day, I would have just showed it to him anyway since it was a private range.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
While I agree it makes sense to carry a copy with you, this only requires that you can make it available on request, not immediately or on the spot.
But I am sure the pain would not be worth it.
Knuckles
Member
See now that's the kind of story I was looking for!
Any Badge asks to see my documents I'm gonna show them... As stated, it's not worth the hassle they can cause by you trying to teach them that the don't have the right to be asking... Just asking for trouble at that point
pwoolford
AR15's make me :-)
Taking a pic with the cellphone is a great idea. I'd say you could just look them up on the BATF web site (if you e-filed) but I don't think I'd rely on that site being up 24x7.
tc617
USN Sub Vet
I have a color copy on my tax stamp folded up and stored with each SBR. Magpul pistol grips with storage compartments are a ideal for this purpose. This way I never leave home without them.
Not by any LEO but at On Target. Got a can at the end of January and it was too freakin' cold to go to AGC. Went through exactly one magazine and the guy comes on the range and asks. I told him it was none of his business.
Back and forth about I would have to leave or remove the can from the range/store if I wanted to continue shooting.
Spoke to the manager when I was done but it was like talking to a brick wall....
Back and forth about I would have to leave or remove the can from the range/store if I wanted to continue shooting.
Spoke to the manager when I was done but it was like talking to a brick wall....
PapiBarcelona
Ultimate Member
- Jan 1, 2011
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Totally weird. You could shoot hundreds of rounds with a handgun, the moment you screw on a sound suppressor the presumptuous over bearing worried people come out of the wood work.
Yeah, I get the logic, it's not normal to see and it takes more effort/money/time to get one, but seriously...
Yeah, I get the logic, it's not normal to see and it takes more effort/money/time to get one, but seriously...
Kingjamez
Gun Builder
Only place I've ever been asked is On-Target. I went through the same thing, I said they had no right to see it, they said they didn't care.
That, among other reasons, is why I won't go back to On-Target.
-Jim
I actually don't even get the logic. Why are RSOs or ranges in general concerned with people's taxes? Sometimes the 2A "community" is its own enemy.
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SW6906user
Active Member
Well I had better keep a copy of my stamp around. I made copies but I've never had one with me.
The only place that I've ever been asked is Continental. I've shot with cans at On Target but have never been asked to show my form 4s.
dogbone
Ultimate Member
Never been asked but I did offer to show them to the RSO at an out-of-state range the first time I went there. I figured making the offer before pulling fun toys out of the cases couldn't hurt. He said, "Nah, don't bother. I'll take your word for it."
Now thats funny because when I got my first can I went to CA. I told the guy behind the counter I had a can asked if needed to see my F4 just because I didn't know any better. The young man told me that I was only required to show an ATF agent and have fun. I have been there a handful of times and never been asked. This was with cans, not MG's. I figure if a range asks to see my F4, I am just going to show them.
Freestate has never asked me.
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