Struggling to find a good factory 9mm host

ericoak · Sep 15, 2015

I just bought a new Glock 17 Gen 3 that came with raised sights for $550. Tested it out and it works great. I was going to order a threaded barrel for my VP9 but they are after market and $250. Add in more for raised sights and the cost of this gun is sky rocketing.

I looked at Sig and really want a p226 but the threaded barrel models are way more expensive than non threaded models and I would still have to replace the expensive night sights they put on then. I considered getting a used police trade in and a 9mm conversion barrel but I really want a factory set up.

Not a big fan of the HK USP. I would get the threaded barrel for my VP9 since I really like it but apparently HK won't warranty suppessor usage on non designated models. And HK prices are way up there.

Since I like the Vp9 I was excited for the PPQ M2 Navy with threaded barrel but then I read that Walther never tested it with suppressors and is having a hard time getting a spring kit to market to fix this problem. WTF!

Also not that big a fan of FNX/FNS series of pistols. Don't like the jointed trigger on the S&W MP9.

Any other factory models I should be looking at, especially ones with raised sights? If I have to get something expensive I'll probably get a p226 and replace the sights. Any recommendations?

montoya32 · Sep 15, 2015

ericoak said:
I just bought a new Glock 17 Gen 3 that came with raised sights for $550. Tested it out and it works great. I was going to order a threaded barrel for my VP9 but they are after market and $250. Add in more for raised sights and the cost of this gun is sky rocketing.

I looked at Sig and really want a p226 but the threaded barrel models are way more expensive than non threaded models and I would still have to replace the expensive night sights they put on then. I considered getting a used police trade in and a 9mm conversion barrel but I really want a factory set up.

Not a big fan of the HK USP. I would get the threaded barrel for my VP9 since I really like it but apparently HK won't warranty suppessor usage on non designated models. And HK prices are way up there.

Since I like the Vp9 I was excited for the PPQ M2 Navy with threaded barrel but then I read that Walther never tested it with suppressors and is having a hard time getting a spring kit to market to fix this problem. WTF!

Also not that big a fan of FNX/FNS series of pistols. Don't like the jointed trigger on the S&W MP9.

Any other factory models I should be looking at, especially ones with raised sights? If I have to get something expensive I'll probably get a p226 and replace the sights. Any recommendations?

Easily remedied with a trigger replacement.

Boats · Sep 15, 2015

Springer XD? Just a thought, I have no experience using one with a can, nor do I know whether threaded barrels are even available.

But youre prob on the right track with Glock if Sig is out of the price range.

AMStrick · Sep 15, 2015

I'm running a G17 GenIII with a Storm Lake threaded barrel as a host for an AWC suppressor. No issues with standard TruGlow sights.

Check Snipes Hide, occasionally you will find Storm Lake barrels for sale there for $125-150.

Shop around on the Internet, you should be able to find a good deal on a storm lake. Also, check Gun Broker.

Mark

rsideout · Sep 15, 2015

ericoak said:
Struggling to find a good factory 9mm host

Not a big fan of the HK USP.

I bought an HK USP9SD so that I would NOT have that problem. Same thing with my HK USP45Tactical. Both work great suppressed.

But I understand you wanting to get a gun that better fits your hands.

dontpanic · Sep 15, 2015

CZ -P07 with threaded barrel.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/88880/redirect

ericoak · Sep 15, 2015

dontpanic said:
CZ -P07 with threaded barrel.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/88880/redirect

Another gun with a threaded barrel and low sights. I guess most people who buy the threaded barrel never use it?

ericoak · Sep 15, 2015

rsideout said:
I bought an HK USP9SD so that I would NOT have that problem. Same thing with my HK USP45Tactical. Both work great suppressed.

But I understand you wanting to get a gun that better fits your hands.

Would rather have a metal frame Sig at those prices.

And from what I read HK won't warranty the use of most suppressors, only certain obscure ones I'll never have.

ericoak · Sep 15, 2015

AMStrick said:
I'm running a G17 GenIII with a Storm Lake threaded barrel as a host for an AWC suppressor. No issues with standard TruGlow sights.

Check Snipes Hide, occasionally you will find Storm Lake barrels for sale there for $125-150.

Shop around on the Internet, you should be able to find a good deal on a storm lake. Also, check Gun Broker.

Mark

Sorry first first post was confusing. I have a G17 with a threaded barrel. I like it. Looking for another factory set up like the Glock. Not really wanting to go after market route.

ericoak · Sep 15, 2015

Boats said:
Springer XD? Just a thought, I have no experience using one with a can, nor do I know whether threaded barrels are even available.

But youre prob on the right track with Glock if Sig is out of the price range.

It isn't so much out of my price range, I'm just cheap and want a plain old Sig p226 with factory threaded barrel and raised sights for $1000. All the Sigs I see have low sights I'll have to upgrade after spending $1200.

dontpanic · Sep 15, 2015

ericoak said:
Another gun with a threaded barrel and low sights. I guess most people who buy the threaded barrel never use it?

I have never used tall sights. I just look theough the suppressor. A lot of guys do and it is really very easy.

Supppressor sights are available for the P-07. After buying them you still have a host for about $600. A really good one at that.

http://czcustom.com/czp07suppressorsightset.aspx

IMBLITZVT · Sep 15, 2015

See... should have bought a Osprey! Then you can get away without the larger sights... as they are about even with the top of the can.

However I agree... I hate looking through the can.

I think you need to just pony up and get the Sig!

Jollyllama · Sep 15, 2015

I prefer to look through the can but that is just me.

I'd second the suggestion to find a used aftermarket barrel unless you want to pay for the whole gun from the factory.

Or a beretta 92 and get the barrel threaded.

ericoak · Sep 15, 2015

IMBLITZVT said:
See... should have bought a Osprey! Then you can get away without the larger sights... as they are about even with the top of the can.

However I agree... I hate looking through the can.

I think you need to just pony up and get the Sig!

Yea but you are Mr. My Purchases Are For the Long Term. In 20 years when new suppressors are illegal and the companies are bankrupt, how are you going to fix your can full of carbon?

Or fix a baffle strike?

IMBLITZVT · Sep 15, 2015

ericoak said:
Yea but you are Mr. My Purchases Are For the Long Term. In 20 years when new suppressors are illegal and the companies are bankrupt, how are you going to fix your can full of carbon?

I have a suppressor for a Mac that was built before 1986... Still going fine. At the rate its going, it will never be an issue.

Also if they are illegal at that point, it will well be worth cleaning it, however much it costs or however much trouble it is. I don't see them being illegal in the future. I don't think the NFA will get revised and if it does, them becoming illegal will mean confiscation. I would rather get the can that works best for me now.

Frankly its not a huge concern for me. The can will likely outlast the gun before it really becomes an issue anyway. 22LR... I can see getting a suppressor I can take apart and clean. For 9mm... not real worried about it. I only clean my Mac about once a year... and thats just to make it look nice for the MG show.

ericoak · Sep 15, 2015

IMBLITZVT said:
I have a suppressor for a Mac that was built before 1986... Still going fine. At the rate its going, it will never be an issue.

Also if they are illegal at that point, it will well be worth cleaning it, however much it costs or however much trouble it is. I don't see them being illegal in the future. I don't think the NFA will get revised and if it does, them becoming illegal will mean confiscation. I would rather get the can that works best for me now.

Frankly its not a huge concern for me. The can will likely outlast the gun before it really becomes an issue anyway. 22LR... I can see getting a suppressor I can take apart and clean. For 9mm... not real worried about it. I only clean my Mac about once a year... and thats just to make it look nice for the MG show.

I mean illegal like the Hughes amendment. I could easily see a similar clause for suppressors passing in a AW ban we all expect will happen eventually. Silencerco has great customer service, but if they can't sell new cans to stay in business they aren't going to be able to stay in business and your warranty/customer service is useless.

IMBLITZVT · Sep 15, 2015

ericoak said:
I mean illegal like the Hughes amendment. I could easily see a similar clause for suppressors passing in a AW ban we all expect will happen eventually. Silencerco has great customer service, but if they can't sell new cans to stay in business they aren't going to be able to stay in business and your warranty/customer service is useless.

Na, liberals already think they are illegal. Plus an AWB will get them too... since they will be the evil feature pushing you over the limit. Either way, I am not to worried, I can figure out how to clean it. I would think the bigger problem would be the baffles wearing out.

fred333 · Sep 15, 2015

Have you considered some type of laser sight system to supplement the lost front iron sight? I just installed a LaserMax guide rod laser in the 92F/Ti-Rant combo and it works great.

blksniper2000 · Sep 15, 2015

rsideout said:
I bought an HK USP9SD so that I would NOT have that problem. Same thing with my HK USP45Tactical. Both work great suppressed.

But I understand you wanting to get a gun that better fits your hands.

ericoak · Sep 15, 2015

IMBLITZVT said:
Na, liberals already think they are illegal. Plus an AWB will get them too... since they will be the evil feature pushing you over the limit. Either way, I am not to worried, I can figure out how to clean it. I would think the bigger problem would be the baffles wearing out.

They thought MGs were illegal, that didn't stop the Hughes amendment. Or MSP could realize they don't have to sign NFA forms and stop signing tomorrow. If 41P is phased in in December, I suspect a noticeable drop in NFA sales. People in major metropolitan areas will find it hard to buy NFA.

I was actually going to post baffles wearing out as well. Making new baffles wouldn't be the hard part, it would be getting them into the gun.

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