Any .22's fail?

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  • TheOriginalMexicanBob

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 2, 2017
    31,902
    Sun City West, AZ
    I once had a Chief of Police tell me he would rather be shot with a .38 than a .22. His reasoning is that a .38 will generally go straight and confine it's damage to its immediate area where a .22 bounces around, ricocheting off ribs and other bones.

    When I was a police officer I saw a shooting victim who had what appeared a survivable abdominal wound. What actually occurred was the round (a .38) ricocheted off a rib and cut cut his aorta and he bled out by the time he arrived at the hospital, despite the efforts of the paramedics. That kind of put perspective on what the police chief said. All bullet wounds can be fatal...placement, caliber and bullet design, happenstance, luck and the will to live of the victim all make a difference.
     

    Mark75H

    MD Wear&Carry Instructor
    Industry Partner
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    Sep 25, 2011
    17,141
    Outside the Gates
    The trauma guy who posted here infrequently said that 2 or more of ANYTHING gave him more trouble in the ER and least chance of survival for the victim than the best penetrating, super flesh tearing magic bullet single shot regardless of caliber.
     

    knastera

    Just another shooter
    May 6, 2013
    1,484
    Baltimore County
    Naaa, it's still a rimfire. I won't use a rimfire in a semi auto platform. If I'm using a .22 mag, it's going to be a revolver. As for 30 rounds, I do't plan on missing that much.

    :)



    I have a 22 Mag revolver, but the coolness factor on this gun is massive. It is on the handgun roster, but you'd have to buy it without magazines and then get the mags out of state.


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    sgt23preston

    USMC LLA. NRA Life Member
    May 19, 2011
    3,991
    Perry Hall
    I don't know about you guys, BUT...

    I've had a lot of mis-fires with 22 LR rim fire ammo...

    These were shot of of GREAT Guns a Ruger 2245 Mark 2 & a S&W 617 Revolver...

    Failure to fire in a life & death situation is NOT acceptable...

    Meanwhile I can't ever remember having a misfire with a 38 Special...

    When my life is on the line I like a center-fire cartridge in a revolver...
     

    knastera

    Just another shooter
    May 6, 2013
    1,484
    Baltimore County
    I don't know about you guys, BUT...



    I've had a lot of mis-fires with 22 LR rim fire ammo...



    These were shot of of GREAT Guns a Ruger 2245 Mark 2 & a S&W 617 Revolver...



    Failure to fire in a life & death situation is NOT acceptable...



    Meanwhile I can't ever remember having a misfire with a 38 Special...



    When my life is on the line I like a center-fire cartridge in a revolver...



    This is my downstairs emergency gun, a Smith & Wesson Model 37 with five rounds of Hornady Critical Duty 38 Special and a speed loader with five more rounds. It's older than I am, but I trust it.
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    Mack C-85

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    Jan 22, 2014
    6,522
    Littlestown, PA
    You can bet your ... I'm grabbing the one on the top. But, in the heat of battle whose going to be able to tell the difference.

    Top: S&W Model 19. .357 Magnum
    Bottom: S&W Model 17. .22 LR
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    Pinecone

    Ultimate Member
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    Feb 4, 2013
    28,175
    There is the one report of single shot stops by caliber, that shows .22 LR doing fairly well.

    IMO, there are those situations that will be stopped by shooting the perp with ANYTHING. The fact that you shot them, stops them. It is more of a mental stop.

    The problem is, the others. Those on drugs, or just flat crazy. THOSE need to be physically stopped, so that their body will not follow through with their desired or attempted actions. In those cases, you need more than a .22.

    BUT, a .22 is better than no gun at all.
     

    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,658
    Yeah I'd imagine one of the reasons of the high 22lr lethality is a lot more people end up getting shot multiple times. Sometimes a whole lot of multiple times. Compared to a centerfire, where often times it might be shot once or twice.
     

    dreadpirate

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 7, 2010
    5,521
    Cuba on the Chesapeake
    My main concern with 22LR is feeding. Seems more finicky than full size centerfire rounds. That said, I can pepper a moving 8 inch steel circle at 50 yards without a sweat so there's no doubt the lack of power can be mitigated by the fact it's so damn easy to shoot quickly and accurately.

    9 shot revolver with hollow points. 6" barrel to insure a muzzle velocity that results in good expansion.
     

    Blacksmith101

    Grumpy Old Man
    Jun 22, 2012
    22,090
    You can bet your ... I'm grabbing the one on the top. But, in the heat of battle whose going to be able to tell the difference.

    Top: S&W Model 19. .357 Magnum
    Bottom: S&W Model 17. .22 LR
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    You have two hands.:D
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
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    May 12, 2005
    22,641
    Socialist State of Maryland
    This is my downstairs emergency gun, a Smith & Wesson Model 37 with five rounds of Hornady Critical Duty 38 Special and a speed loader with five more rounds. It's older than I am, but I trust it.
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    I have a model 36 that looks just like your 37. It was made in 1950 something and I keep it loaded with Barnes 140 gn ammo as my living room gun. I have two speed loaders to go with it.
    I had to dremel the lower front edge of the cylinder release so that the speed loader would work correctly. I also put Pachmyer grips on it for obvious reasons. :thumbsup:
     

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