Tune-up for XDm w/ 7000 rds...and braggin rights

Bikebreath · Nov 11, 2012

I had a stovepipe-like issue at the end of run where the case was sitting on top of the magazine, slide locked back. Then I had a real stovepipe that stop my run.

I've kept a loose count of how many rounds I'm putting though my XDm 9 and I just passed 7,000. Are springs the likely problem? Recoil springs? Any suggestions?

After 2 1/2 years shooting IDPA I FINALLY made Marksman.

Magnumite · Nov 11, 2012

Sounds like an extractor issue. There is probably carbon deposits built up betwwen the extractor and it's cut in the slide. This would prevent the extractor from moving fully against the case rim. It coykd be a wekened extractor spring as well.

Beyond that looking closer at the extractor is in order along with ammo power factor and slide movement.

BradMacc82 · Nov 11, 2012

RSA is suggested to be replaced at 3500 or 5k (IIRC) for the M&P's, so your probably due for that as well.

Bikebreath · Nov 11, 2012

What is RSA?

Thanks.

BradMacc82 · Nov 11, 2012

Recoil spring assembly.

I'm not familiar with the XD line-up, do they run a captive recoil spring assembly as well?

AliasNeo07 · Nov 11, 2012

Bikebreath said:
What is RSA?

Thanks.

Recoil Spring Assembly

Bikebreath · Nov 11, 2012

BradMacc82 said:
Recoil spring assembly.

I'm not familiar with the XD line-up, do they run a captive recoil spring assembly as well?

I looked up "captive recoil spring assembly" and my understanding is that it's coupled to the guide rod. The XDm is not, it's one spring and it easily separates from the guide rod.

BradMacc82 · Nov 11, 2012

Ahh, then it should be pretty easy to find the appropriate spring weight to replace it with then.

I have a captive system on my M&P .45, I'll have to start looking at replacements in the near future myself. If nothing else, it's nice to have readily available replacements parts for when they are needed.

lx1x · Nov 11, 2012

Bikebreath said:
I had a stovepipe-like issue at the end of run where the case was sitting on top of the magazine, slide locked back. Then I had a real stovepipe that stop my run.

I've kept a loose count of how many rounds I'm putting though my XDm 9 and I just passed 7,000. Are springs the likely problem? Recoil springs? Any suggestions?

After 2 1/2 years shooting IDPA I FINALLY made Marksman.

congrats on marksman!

i have same gun and been using it for idpa and uspsa.. 10k+ rounds.. not had stove pipe.. check your mags maybe?

i do have problem for not locking on the last load.. maybe just my loads..

python · Nov 11, 2012

7000 rounds with no spring replacement, and you have to ask? All of the springs should be replaced.

Bikebreath · Nov 11, 2012

python said:
7000 rounds with no spring replacement, and you have to ask? All of the springs should be replaced.

Yes, I've only been into firearms for three years. I'm an experience noob

Bikebreath · Nov 11, 2012

lx1x said:
congrats on marksman!

i have same gun and been using it for idpa and uspsa.. 10k+ rounds.. not had stove pipe.. check your mags maybe?

i do have problem for not locking on the last load.. maybe just my loads..

Thanks on the "congrats". Between paying attention to safety and that damn buzzer going off I always went to fast. Basically I just freaked out at the buzzer. :sad20:

It took a long time for me to slow down and get a good sight picture.

Just cleaned all mags 2-300 rounds ago. I'm gonna do spring maintenance.

When I had "not locking back on last load" it was my thumb resting/pushing on the slide release.

lx1x · Nov 11, 2012

Bikebreath said:
Thanks on the "congrats". Between paying attention to safety and that damn buzzer going off I always went to fast. Basically I just freaked out at the buzzer. It took a long time for me to slow down and get a good sight picture.

Just cleaned all mags 2-300 rounds ago. I'm gonna do spring maintenance.

When I had "not locking back on last load" it was my thumb resting/pushing on the slide release.

guilty on that too..

yeah.. i know what it feels with the buzzer/beep...

today i went to a uspsa classifier... had problem releasing the mag, reloading and miscounting.. oops.. its still had fun though.. its what it counts.. at least for me.

Magnumite · Nov 11, 2012

"Basically I just freaked out at the buzzer. It took a long time for me to slow down and get a good sight picture. "

You hit the nail on the head. The pros say one has to slow down to go fast. You can shoot only as fast as you can shoot, speed follows smooth form and focus. The fastest times I ever shot felt no too quick, because I was shooting and not trying to go fast.

And congratulations also, I failed to do so in my first post. I know it feels good to make that next step

mwelliott · Nov 11, 2012

Bikebreath said:
After 2 1/2 years shooting IDPA I FINALLY made Marksman.

I was hoping to see that when the scores came out! You put together 3 good stages and it all worked out as it should. :party29:

Congratulations!

Mike

Bikebreath · Nov 12, 2012

mwelliott said:
I was hoping to see that when the scores came out! You put together 3 good stages and it all worked out as it should. Congratulations!

Mike

You and Frank slipped out before I got to thank you for SO'ing. "Thanks".

Notice I didn't say how my stovepipe caused/allowed me to re-shoot stage 3 and that made all the difference in my score? Shhhh, don't tell a soul, ok?

mwelliott · Nov 12, 2012

You shot all those strings well and making you re-shoot part of stage 3 only made it harder for you... not easier.

You did a good job and should be proud of your performance even having to goof around with a re-shoot :thumbsup:

Mike

Bikebreath · Nov 13, 2012

mwelliott said:
You shot all those strings well and making you re-shoot part of stage 3 only made it harder for you... not easier.

You did a good job and should be proud of your performance even having to goof around with a re-shoot

Mike

Wow, thanks...now my head's all swelled up.

Blaster229 · Nov 13, 2012

Magnumite said:
Sounds like an extractor issue. There is probably carbon deposits built up betwwen the extractor and it's cut in the slide. This would prevent the extractor from moving fully against the case rim. It coykd be a wekened extractor spring as well.

Beyond that looking closer at the extractor is in order along with ammo power factor and slide movement.

Probably not his issue. But dental pick + extractor = one of my pet peeves. If I could only clean one sole item it would be this I think.

Bikebreath · Nov 13, 2012

Blaster229 said:
Probably not his issue. But dental pick + extractor = one of my pet peeves. If I could only clean one sole item it would be this I think.

I was gonna do both, clean the extractor and swap out some springs. Dental pick is a great idea...I was thinking to pry it ever-so slightly with a screwdriver and slide a paper clip down in there to remove the gunk. Been busy and won't get to it until later this week, maybe the weekend.

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