Email from Gaby Giffords Re: MD Gun Laws POLL

pitpawten · Oct 10, 2013

Looks like a Dem PAC is looking to drum up support and start a PR campaign FOR the various state gun laws. Got the following email from them:

After the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School, we joined the rest of the country in demanding elected officials take action to make our communities safer from gun violence.

And while Congress has failed to act, some states have stepped up, like Maryland -- where the Firearm Safety Act of 2013 went into law last Tuesday, October 1st.

The bill limits magazine capacity, bans certain types of assault weapons, improves school safety, and keeps guns out of the hands of the dangerously mentally ill.

Will you join our organization, Americans for Responsible Solutions, in thanking Governor O'Malley and the Maryland State Legislature for taking meaningful action that will save lives while respecting the rights of gun owners?

http://action.americansforresponsiblesolutions.org/maryland

We've won some meaningful victories in states like Maryland, Delaware, Colorado, and Connecticut. We hope you'll join us as we continue the fight to pass common sense legislation to reduce gun violence.

All the best,

Gabby Giffords & Mark Kelly

The link goes to a web form where you can send a comment. I was tempted to tell them what I really think, but they will likely just use the numbers and say "X people wanted to thank the Governor".

On the main site however, there is a poll that needs to be hit up HARD: [nourl]http://action.americansforresponsiblesolutions.org/page/s/poll?source=site-home[/nourl]

These guys have a nicely done site, so hopefully they are thinking about using that poll for something, and we all know what happens when you open it up to more than your private liberal mailing list

HIT IT!

Note, I removed the hyperlink from the URL so it will have to be copy/pasted. The reason is that if you click on it from this page, they can see the last page that people came from. Id not want to draw unnecessary attention here to this forum/post, or give them a reason to discount the results for some reason.

daggo66 · Oct 10, 2013

What changed in DE?

Ungermc · Oct 10, 2013

Done ... "Do Nothing"

Wish they had a "Force States to repeal anti-2nd Amendment legislation" and a comments section.

2AHokie · Oct 10, 2013

Done. I'm sure whatever minion put the "do nothing" as an available choice will be excommunicated from their cult shortly, but I was happy to take advantage.

Dogmeat · Oct 10, 2013

hvymax · Oct 10, 2013

pitpawten said:
Looks like a Dem PAC is looking to drum up support and start a PR campaign FOR the various state gun laws. Got the following email from them:

The link goes to a web form where you can send a comment. I was tempted to tell them what I really think, but they will likely just use the numbers and say "X people wanted to thank the Governor".

On the main site however, there is a poll that needs to be hit up HARD: http://action.americansforresponsiblesolutions.org/page/s/poll?source=site-home

These guys have a nicely done site, so hopefully they are thinking about using that poll for something, and we all know what happens when you open it up to more than your private liberal mailing list

HIT IT!

They don't really give choices. Just support our position or blank.

anthem4arequiem · Oct 10, 2013

pitpawten said:
Looks like a Dem PAC is looking to drum up support and start a PR campaign FOR the various state gun laws. Got the following email from them:

The link goes to a web form where you can send a comment. I was tempted to tell them what I really think, but they will likely just use the numbers and say "X people wanted to thank the Governor".

On the main site however, there is a poll that needs to be hit up HARD: [nourl]http://action.americansforresponsiblesolutions.org/page/s/poll?source=site-home[/nourl]

These guys have a nicely done site, so hopefully they are thinking about using that poll for something, and we all know what happens when you open it up to more than your private liberal mailing list

HIT IT!

Note, I removed the hyperlink from the URL so it will have to be copy/pasted. The reason is that if you click on it from this page, they can see the last page that people came from. Id not want to draw unnecessary attention here to this forum/post, or give them a reason to discount the results for some reason.

I was just getting on here to post about getting the same email with the same original idea as you. I think if we get enough people on here saying what they really feel this whole thing could blow up in their faces.

And voted to do nothing.

pitpawten · Oct 10, 2013

hvymax said:
They don't really give choices. Just support our position or blank.

Yeah, how about a truly national, unbiased 3rd party, highly advertised, uniquely identifiable poll on the 2A with some real questions:

1. Do you believe the 2A provides for individuals to posses firearms inside and outisde of the home? (or similar).

2. Do you believe that instituting further Gun Control legislation will noticeably reduce gun violence?

3. Do you support efforts to bring the US under the UN Small Arms Treaty?

etc

On second thought, maybe we don't want to know what the country thinks on those points

Mr H · Oct 10, 2013

just the next move from Eager Young Space Cadet and his Pet Woman, doing their masters bidding...

abean4187 · Oct 10, 2013

Yeah, no point in writing a letter that is attached to a “Thank You” Message.

Def hit up the “Do nothing” button though.

Les Gawlik · Oct 10, 2013

I did not check do nothing. The option below was one of the options, and I selected it. A point was made of these numbers by our side during the 281 debate. I think it's about time that prosecutions of ineligible purchasers be increased.
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Step up Justice Department prosecutions of felons and others who attempt to purchase firearms but are not lawfully permitted to.
In 2009, the FBI referred 71,000 cases to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), but U.S. attorneys prosecuted only 77.

MDFF2008 · Oct 10, 2013

Les Gawlik said:
I did not check do nothing. The option below was one of the options, and I selected it. A point was made of these numbers by our side during the 281 debate. I think it's about time that prosecutions of ineligible purchasers be increased.
-----------------------------------

Step up Justice Department prosecutions of felons and others who attempt to purchase firearms but are not lawfully permitted to.
In 2009, the FBI referred 71,000 cases to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), but U.S. attorneys prosecuted only 77.

I selected that one too.

Doctor_M · Oct 10, 2013

I got it too.

pitpawten · Oct 10, 2013

Les Gawlik said:
I did not check do nothing. The option below was one of the options, and I selected it. A point was made of these numbers by our side during the 281 debate. I think it's about time that prosecutions of ineligible purchasers be increased.
-----------------------------------

Step up Justice Department prosecutions of felons and others who attempt to purchase firearms but are not lawfully permitted to.
In 2009, the FBI referred 71,000 cases to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), but U.S. attorneys prosecuted only 77.

Yeah, I looked at this one too. The key is that it is all in the implementation. This could mean, get the guys who are trying to do straw purchases and charge them with something...thats awesome.

It could also be something like making a disapproved a type of felony. Which for many innocent people would only compound the situation.

The poll is kind of a no-win situation sadly, but glad you put this in there.

I selected the one on Mental health along with "do nothing", but again, all in the implementation.

One thing is for sure, by increasing the number of votes that do not select Mags or AW Ban, the % of people surveyed who support those goes down.

gedelea · Oct 10, 2013

I got the same email. I checked the mental health issue needs to be addressed and that our current laws are adequate.

mxrider · Oct 10, 2013

I can't, for the life of me, find it in my soul to give them my info to be able to do the poll........just can't.

rseymorejr · Oct 10, 2013

Step up Justice Department prosecutions of felons and others who attempt to purchase firearms but are not lawfully permitted to.

In 2009, the FBI referred 71,000 cases to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), but U.S. attorneys prosecuted only 77.

Address mental illness.

Greater focus on identifying and treating the mentally ill can help society identify and treat those in distress before they commit heinous crimes

I found two answers that I was comfortable with

hvymax · Oct 10, 2013

At least it wasn't.do you want to A:ban guns?
B:molest children

LJPete · Oct 10, 2013

pitpawten · Oct 10, 2013

rseymorejr said:
Step up Justice Department prosecutions of felons and others who attempt to purchase firearms but are not lawfully permitted to.

In 2009, the FBI referred 71,000 cases to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), but U.S. attorneys prosecuted only 77.

Address mental illness.

Greater focus on identifying and treating the mentally ill can help society identify and treat those in distress before they commit heinous crimes

I found two answers that I was comfortable with

Good stuff, hopefully the results turn out to be a somewhat proper reflection of public sentiment.........which for their purposes would be completely useless

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