!0% of MD Gun Owners are Felons?

danb · Jun 3, 2014

K31 said:
I don't really get this. It would seem to me that one of the things the police would check now upon a felony conviction is whether the person has registered firearms.

^ This. This bill seemed more like the-police-are-not-doing-their-job-upon-conviction bill. Are you telling me when executing a search warrant that they have checked for registered firearms? Are you telling me detectives don't check whether suspects have a handgun registered to them which may match the crime gun? Really?

whistlersmother said:
Previoysly non-regulated long guns and shotguns aren't registered. Any gun, even handguns, obtained through out-of-state c&r is not registered. (c&r handguns transferred WITHIN Maryland would have a 77r and therefore would be registered.)
(updated to reflect "non-regulated" - all long guns now are non-regulated and thus not registered - damn Maryland convoluted crap mess laws)

Right, this would only affect Maryland registered firearms. Now maybe upon conviction you got your girlfriend to stash that shottie in her place for 5-10, because we all know you'll get a suspended sentence and be out in less than 1. Yet somehow most crime guns are still pistols...

Hotrod Diesel · Jun 3, 2014

I would argue there is a difference between a gun "owner", and a person in possesion of a gun...

K31 · Jun 3, 2014

TheBert said:
Is there s requirement that I register all of my firearms?

I said, registered, the article is about registered, yeah, I get it, the police can't know all the firearms someone has. I didn't read anything that changes that, again, the article says "registered".

Brooklyn · Jun 3, 2014

Wonder how many will show up on the Baltimore city police force.. it has happened before...,

Gryphon · Jun 3, 2014

Just wait until we get a few no knock warrants, get a few people on both sides killed, and find out that others no longer have their prior registered firearms because they legally sold them (or lost them while fishing), and the database is proven to be inaccurate and incomplete in part because of those sales, and in part because criminals don't register their weapons in the first place. They will fill the jails, revoke probations, and clog the courts, but none of that will matter of course because it will have been for the children . . . and they will have fabricated a need to track private sales and transfers, even out of state transfers through FFL's, and to keep it all simple they will try to require us to re-register what we have every 6 months - which of course won't solve the problem with the criminals with guns. I am sure that's exactly what the founding fathers had in mind. :sad20:

Not me, I am not playing that game.

Blacksmith101 · Jun 3, 2014

It would not surprise me that 10% of the guns in Maryland are possessed by felons however the guns most felons posses are illegal guns that are not registered in the first place. Many stories about arrests of previously convicted felons mention the possession of a gun which is illegal for a convected felon. Unfortunately gun possession with a strict minimum sentence is one of the first charges plea bargained away.

Second Amendment · Jun 3, 2014

They don't even avoid using the word confiscate anymore. That was always something that "wasn't going to happen".

Jasen · Jun 3, 2014

This is true. Hitler did it. First regesteration, then confiscation.

Mr H · Jun 3, 2014

Second Amendment said:
They don't even avoid using the word confiscate anymore. That was always something that "wasn't going to happen".

The magic word is now "recover"... as if they belonged in the State's possession in the first place.

whistlersmother · Jun 3, 2014

Jasen said:
This is true. Hitler did it. First regesteration, then confiscation.

Didn't the Weimer Republic create the registration and then the lists fell into Nazi hands when they took over? Even "well-intentioned" registration will lead to confiscation.

DC-W · Jun 3, 2014

Mr H said:
The magic word is now "recover"... as if they belonged in the State's possession in the first place.

I've heard that one used for the restraining order bill in CA. The congresswoman also said, "repossess."

rseymorejr · Jun 3, 2014

whistlersmother said:
Didn't the Weimer Republic create the registration and then the lists fell into Nazi hands when they took over? Even "well-intentioned" registration will lead to confiscation.

What the hell is "well-intentioned registration"?
Any registration at all is ill-intentioned

Boom Boom · Jun 4, 2014

mpdc4511 said:
Just an opinion not a fact and nothing to back it up but I'd say....from what I've seen.....that I'll probably agree 10% of gun owners in general are felons.

I'll agree to the extent that probably 10% of gun possessors in MD are felons.

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