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  • East2West

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    "Biden has a chance
    Have you all not been paying attention to the Demoncrat party the last 2 years? Have you all not see how far down the progressive identity politics rabbit hole they've gone???

    There's no way, no way in hell that an old, white, moderate will get the Demoncrat Nomination. Biden is no threat to Trump because he won't survive the primary.
     

    INMY01TA

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    "Biden has a chance
    Have you all not been paying attention to the Demoncrat party the last 2 years? Have you all not see how far down the progressive identity politics rabbit hole they've gone???

    There's no way, no way in hell that an old, white, moderate will get the Demoncrat Nomination. Biden is no threat to Trump because he won't survive the primary.
    And as Rush was saying today, he hates Trump but he doesn’t hate America. Pretty much a requirement for the America hating lefties.
     

    md123

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    Biden is unelectable in Democrat primary because he only supports abortion up until birth and he likes shotguns.
     

    Bob A

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    Peggy Noonan published a column about Biden's possible run for POTUS in the WSJ April 11.

    Since she provides many links for sharing the column, I'll go ahead and quote it here:


    Don’t do it, Joe.

    Don’t run for president. It won’t work, you won’t get the nomination, your loss will cause pain and not only for you.

    And your defeat will be worse than sudden, it will be poignant.

    Right now operatives for the other candidates are trying to scare you out of jumping in. We all know that what you intended as warmth is now received as a boundary violation. You addressed this in a video that was crisp and friendly: You never meant to cause discomfort, you intend to change your ways.

    But it’s not going away. It will linger, and more will come.

    Democratic operatives do not fear you will win the nomination—they think you’re too old, your time has passed, you’re not where the energy of the base is, or the money. But they do not want you taking up oxygen the next six to 10 months as you sink in the polls. And they don’t want you swooping in to claim the middle lane. Others already have a stake there, or mean to.

    In the past you were never really slimed and reviled by your party; you were mostly teased and patronized. But if you get in the race this time, it will be different. They will show none of the old respect for you, your vice presidency or your past fealty to the cause. And you are in the habit of receiving respect. Soon the topic will turn, in depth, to Anita Hill, the Clinton crime bill, your friendliness to big business. You have opposed partial-birth abortion. Also, the old plagiarism video will come back and be dissected. It was more than 30 years ago, and for a lot of reporters and voters it will be a riveting story, and brand new.

    You backed the Iraq war. That question will be resurrected, as opposed to redebated. It is always fair to redebate it—to be asked, “Why did your generation of Democratic politicians back that war. Looking back what did you misunderstand?” But it will only be resurrected, and thrown in your face.

    You will be judged to be old-school, and insufficiently doctrinaire. The current Democratic Party is different from the one you entered in the late 1960s, not only in policies but in mood, tone, style. Today’s rising young Democrats see no honor in accommodation, little virtue in collegiality.

    In the old party of classic 20th-century Democratic liberalism, they wanted everyone to rise. Those who suffered impediments—minorities, women, working people trying to unionize—would be given a boost. There’s plenty to go around, America’s a rich country, let the government get in and help.

    The direction, or at least the aspiration, was upward, for everybody.

    The mood of the rising quadrants of the new party is more pinched—more abstractedly aggrieved, more theoretical. Less human. Now there’s a mood not of Everyone Can Rise but of Some Must Be Taken Down. White people in general, and white males in particular, are guilty of intractable privilege. It’s bitter, resentful, divisive.

    And it is at odds with the spirit in which your political categories were formed. Actually, your politics always struck me as being like the World War II movies Americans of a certain age grew up on. The American soldiers are in the foxhole in Bataan, and there’s the working-class guy from Brooklyn, the tall Ivy League guy, the baker’s apprentice from Ohio. They’re all together and equal, like the country they represent. When the war’s over they’ll probably stay friends and the Brooklyn guy will be in the union and the Ivy League fancy-pants will be in management, but they’ll quickly forge the new contract and shake on the deal because back when it counted we were all in it together.

    That is not the 2019 Democratic Party! This party would note, correctly, that there was little racial diversity in the foxhole, and would elaborate that its false unity was built on intersectional oppressions that render its utility as a unifying metaphor null.

    The party’s young theorists are impatient with such gooey patriotic sentiment. America is not good guys in a foxhole to them, it’s crabs in a barrel with the one who gets to the top getting yanked down to the bottom—deservedly.

    Your very strength—that you enjoy talking to both sides, that deep in your heart you see no one as deplorable—will be your weakness. You aren’t enough of a warrior. You’re sweet, you’re weak, you’re half-daffy. You’re meh.

    At this point you’re not out of step, you’re out of place.

    The press too will have certain biases, and not only because they’re 30 and 40 years younger than you and would like to see their careers associated with the rise of someone their age. Their bias is also toward drama, as you well know—toward pathos, and the end of something. They love that almost as much as the beginning of something. They can’t wait to write their Lion in Winter stories. “The Long Goodbye.” “The Last Campaign.” “Biden faltered for just a moment when a white-haired woman put her hand to his face and said, ‘I remember you from ’88, Joe. We all do, and we love you.”

    And that is apart from those young reporters who consider themselves culture cops, and who enjoy beating people like you with the nightstick of their wokeness.

    Why will it be painful to witness all this? Because it will mark the fall of a political figure who was normal. Who knew there was a left over here and a right over there and a big middle. Who went with the flow of cultural leftism but understood the other side’s reservations and signaled that in some way he had some sympathy for them. Who knew politics wasn’t always about absolutes.

    This in contrast to the up-and-coming manipulators for whom it is second nature to feign warmth and outreach, but whose every hug is backed by the sharp and crooked finger of accusation. Their engine is resentment, their fuel is unearned self-esteem, their secret is lust for power.

    You probably think they’re just girls who need a hug.

    But their place is not your place.

    It would be one thing if you wanted to enter the race to persuade the party on the merits of more-centrist approaches and working with the other side. But is that your intention? You’ve been apologizing for calling Mike Pence decent, and groveling over your “white man’s culture.” If you go with that flow, it will wash you away.

    It is hard for the political personality to say no—to more fame, more power, more love. To the history books. It is hard for a man who’s always seen a president when he looked in the mirror to admit he’s an almost-president. It’s hard to get out of the habit of importance.

    But you’ll never be unimportant. You’ll be Joe Biden, a liberal lion of the U.S. Senate at the turn of century. A man with a heart, unhated in an age of hate.

    That’s not nothing, that’s a lot.

    So don’t do it. Wisdom here dictates an Irish goodbye—a quiet departure, out the back door with a wave and a tip of the hat to whoever might be watching.

    - Peggy Noonan

    I think she's far too kind. That said, she understands the new Dem Dynamic.
     

    trickg

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    Peggy Noonan published a column about Biden's possible run for POTUS in the WSJ April 11.

    Since she provides many links for sharing the column, I'll go ahead and quote it here:

    I think she's far too kind. That said, she understands the new Dem Dynamic.
    She understands it, and seems to condemn it at the same time - odd for a current member of the media, although she herself seems to be conservative.

    In any case, I thought she wrote a very compelling article, although I still think that Joe isn't in it for himself, but rather to be a distraction and a target so that someone else can advance - Joe will take the heat rounds so they don't have to.
     

    Occam

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    I see it the other way around. The establishment Dems know they’ll have a hard time beating Trump, and zero chance beating him with one of their crazy far-lefties. But people like Warren don’t believe the crap they’re saying, they just want to continue to have that cushy gig they’re used to. So they say what they say to keep some media light on them for name recognition in their local races, and are ENCOURAGED to go full socialistard by the establishment Dem machine so that the candidate with the deep pocket backers (Biden) will seem fully rational and non-scary by comparison.

    The Dems want shrill, insane leftists screeching as much as possible so they can let the independents and normal middle Americans see Biden as a comfort zone. If this were debate class, we’d be talking about the lazy use of the straw man argument. Crazies tilting at windmills to make Sleepy Joe seem like a sensible choice.
     

    trickg

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    I see it the other way around. The establishment Dems know they’ll have a hard time beating Trump, and zero chance beating him with one of their crazy far-lefties. But people like Warren don’t believe the crap they’re saying, they just want to continue to have that cushy gig they’re used to. So they say what they say to keep some media light on them for name recognition in their local races, and are ENCOURAGED to go full socialistard by the establishment Dem machine so that the candidate with the deep pocket backers (Biden) will seem fully rational and non-scary by comparison.

    The Dems want shrill, insane leftists screeching as much as possible so they can let the independents and normal middle Americans see Biden as a comfort zone. If this were debate class, we’d be talking about the lazy use of the straw man argument. Crazies tilting at windmills to make Sleepy Joe seem like a sensible choice.
    If that's the case, then Biden still has no chance to win, even if he wins the primaries - the Dems and left are too divided.
     

    Bob A

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    She understands it, and seems to condemn it at the same time - odd for a current member of the media, although she herself seems to be conservative.

    In any case, I thought she wrote a very compelling article, although I still think that Joe isn't in it for himself, but rather to be a distraction and a target so that someone else can advance - Joe will take the heat rounds so they don't have to.

    She was a speechwriter for Reagan; she's pretty sound politically. Not a great buddy of Trump, but has come around a bit. She's old school, so finds him rude and crude, which of course he is, but that's what makes him such an effective, refreshing change over the last three presidents.
     

    Occam

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    If that's the case, then Biden still has no chance to win, even if he wins the primaries - the Dems and left are too divided.

    I agree. Too many in that camp are so rabid with their TDS and socialist fantasies that they can’t play chess, or even checkers. They’re playing ... I don’t know. That drunk face slapping game, maybe.
     

    Bob A

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    If that's the case, then Biden still has no chance to win, even if he wins the primaries - the Dems and left are too divided.

    About time the Democrats had their Circular Firing Squad primary campaign. By the time the primary season is over, nearly everyone will be sick to death of the Left.

    Biden vs Trump ought to be one of television's great comic episodes. I'd be tempted to tune in a few Late Night Leftist talk shows, just to watch them wiggle and squirm.
     

    K31

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    He looks less healthy than Hillary. If he made it through the primaries and the election, whatever communist he picks as his running mate may be POTUS.

    But I think Man Crush Media doesn't like him, yesterday they seemed to be dredging up Anita Hill, I'm sure there's more of this to come. And he may look like the most sane of the pack now but since the rest of them are trying desperately to out moonbat each other, some of that hint of sanity is going to be lost as he has to join in or be accused of not being a true Dbag.
     
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    fidelity

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    Peggy Noonan published a column about Biden's possible run for POTUS in the WSJ April 11.

    Since she provides many links for sharing the column, I'll go ahead and quote it here:




    I think she's far too kind. That said, she understands the new Dem Dynamic.

    Bob, thanks for posting. As Noonan predicted, the Post has a lengthy hit piece on Biden regarding Anita Hill ...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...a6f384-6500-11e9-82ba-fcfeff232e8f_story.html

    This was of course never an issue while Biden was Obama’s VP, but now that he’s the lone center left candidate with a shot for the nomination on the Democratic side, they will go after him.
     

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