Remington Model 11 US marked date help

Brickman301 · Dec 27, 2019

I picked up a Remington Model 11 that is marked US, and has the flaming bomb on the barrel. It also has the FJA marking on the stock. This shotgun has a cylinder choke, and a longer barrel. Not sure of length, as I haven’t measured it yet.
I want to find out when it was made. From what I’ve looked at it seems to have been made before August 1st 1943, but then the date code, on the barrel is confusing to me. Here are some pictures, hopefully someone here with more knowledge on these can help me out.

Brickman301 · Dec 27, 2019

Here’s some more pictures.

Brickman301 · Dec 27, 2019

And a few more, if I’m missing something and you need more pictures let me know

rj1974 · Dec 27, 2019

The barrel date code MM is 1943.

Brickman301 · Dec 27, 2019

rj1974 said:
The barrel date code MM is 1943.

Thanks, I looked on another date code website for Remingtons and it showed that you are correct. Thank you.

I’m guessing this shot gun was used for aerial training? because of the longer barrel I’m assuming it wasn’t used as a trench/riot gun. Kind of interesting that they went with cylinder choke bore.

Any other interesting history about these fire arms? I assume they are not that rare? This shotgun will get some use hunting pheasants over a pointer and maybe even the occasional rabbit hunt.

DontTreadOnMe · Dec 27, 2019

Very nice. I have a Model 11 in 16 GA with a date code of 1941, it has the same bird image, looks nice.

The “bomb” image is Army Ordnance, and with the “US” stamp it was an Army shotgun?

Cool history, and cool that you’re going to put it to use.

Threeband · Dec 27, 2019

My father told me he guarded German POWs with a ".45 revolver and a 12 gauge shotgun." That was at Camp Forrest, Tenn. and on harvest crews all up and down the Great Plains.

I have no idea what model shotgun he carried, maybe an 1897 Winchester. The point is, shotguns saw a lot of non-combat use, and yours could have been carried by my father.

Brickman301 · Dec 30, 2019

DontTreadOnMe said:
The “bomb” image is Army Ordnance, and with the “US” stamp it was an Army shotgun?

Cool history, and cool that you’re going to put it to use.

Yes, those markings indicate that it was used by the US military.

Brickman301 · Dec 30, 2019

Threeband said:
My father told me he guarded German POWs with a ".45 revolver and a 12 gauge shotgun." That was at Camp Forrest, Tenn. and on harvest crews all up and down the Great Plains.

I have no idea what model shotgun he carried, maybe an 1897 Winchester. The point is, shotguns saw a lot of non-combat use, and yours could have been carried by my father.

Very cool story, about your father.
My grandfather told me stories very similar to your fathers. He was given a special permit, to drive at the age of 15, during WWII. He was a farm kid. At the age of 15, he would drive from Poolesville to Germantown in a Model A ford to pick up German POW’s to help work on the farm. He was not given a weapon, he was armed with his own 12 gauge single shot shotgun.
Wow how times have changed.

wreckdiver · Dec 30, 2019

Very cool. I know some were used for arial gunner training and some were used for recreation/hunting on bases/guard duty.

Threeband · Dec 30, 2019

Brickman301 said:
Very cool story, about your father.
My grandfather told me stories very similar to your fathers. He was given a special permit, to drive at the age of 15, during WWII. He was a farm kid. At the age of 15, he would drive from Poolesville to Germantown in a Model A ford to pick up German POW’s to help work on the farm. He was not given a weapon, he was armed with his own 12 gauge single shot shotgun.
Wow how times have changed.

He had a lot of stories. We went to absurd lengths to scrupulously observe the Geneva Convention. Guards slept in tents until every last POW was housed in permanent buildings. Guards were fed horsemeat while POWs got beef. (Fun fact: Germans don't eat beef, but they do eat horsemeat. I've seen it for sale in the markets there ).

Camp Forrest also housed Enemy Aliens. German- born civilians. My father escorted one German to a wedding in Pennsylvania, handcuffed together on the train. He said the prisoner was just a regular guy and they got along great. My father was from Lancaster, so it was a nice visit back home.

War is hell.

Brickman301 · Dec 30, 2019

Threeband said:
He had a lot of stories. We went to absurd lengths to scrupulously observe the Geneva Convention. Guards slept in tents until every last POW was housed in permanent buildings. Guards were fed horsemeat while POWs got beef. (Fun fact: Germans don't eat beef, but they do eat horsemeat. I've seen it for sale in the markets there ).

Camp Forrest also housed Enemy Aliens. German- born civilians. My father escorted one German to a wedding in Pennsylvania, handcuffed together on the train. He said the prisoner was just a regular guy and they got along great. My father was from Lancaster, so it was a nice visit back home.

War is hell.

Very cool. My grandfather watched over a German POW that worked on farm equipment before the war started. A Thrashing Machine broke down, parts and mechanics, where hard to find, at the time. The POW ended up fixing the machine. My grandfather didn’t speak German, and the POW didn’t speak English, but they somehow figured it out.
My grandfather picked up this same POW every day after that. In fact that POW, gave my grandfather a old German coin. I have that coin today.

Pinecone · Dec 31, 2019

My parent's former neighbor used to tell everyone that the first time he meet an American, he had his hands in the air. He was a Messerschmidt pilot, got shot down, and due to lack of planes, became an infantryman. He was captured at the Battle of the Bulge.

He also used to say, getting captured by the Americans was the best thing that happened to him. Better food, more food, cigarettes, and real coffee.

johnkn · Jan 13, 2020

Brickman301, I have a similar shotgun pictured below. I'm no expert but perhaps yours had a barrel replacement (?). I believe mine to be all original and the markings on the receiver are consistent with the barrel with military finish and U.S. and the bomb (last pic) where yours appears to be more of a 'sporting' receiver, but who knows, we were going to war and anything was possible . Mine happens to be for sale but I didn't post here with that intent, I just noted we have similar barrels and posted for comparison. Good luck....

Brickman301 · Nov 14, 2021

Bringing up my old post, for a little update. Took the US marked Remington model 11 pheasant hunting earlier today. She ran flawlessly! That open cylinder bore, while using pointer dogs was a great combination. I might just have to take her out more often.

fidelity · Nov 14, 2021

Brickman301 said:
Bringing up my old post, for a little update. Took the US marked Remington model 11 pheasant hunting earlier today. She ran flawlessly! That open cylinder bore, while using pointer dogs was a great combination. I might just have to take her out more often.

Nice pic. The pheasants totally steal the show in it, but great you got this old gun back in the field.

mdonzi · Nov 15, 2021

very nice

Brickman301 · Nov 15, 2021

fidelity said:
Nice pic. The pheasants totally steal the show in it, but great you got this old gun back in the field.

Thanks. I’ll be posting more pictures in the “outdoors” thread later.

Alphabrew · Nov 25, 2021

Damn that’s amazing

Trepang · Nov 25, 2021

A Model 11 was also present at the ambush of Bonnie & Clyde.

Very cool gun. That is my short list of next C&R purchases.

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