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Old November 26th, 2021, 02:38 PM #621
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Even the R/C's are getting expensive but yeah, I'd rather shoot one of those, where you can replace parts without affecting value.
The fat slide swap is relatively cheap but it's not always easy to find all the internal slide parts.
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Old November 26th, 2021, 09:27 PM #622
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I have the hex pin thingie insert on my P1 but I found that the P1 could handle reduced loads pretty well and still cycle.
Reduced load started out as an alox coated casted bullet but last year turned into a Powder coated load.
I use the same reduced loads when shooting the P38 which comes out only about one or two times a year as part of a theme day and never a full box.
The sights on the P38/P1 make them really great to shoot.
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Even the R/C's are getting expensive but yeah, I'd rather shoot one of those, where you can replace parts without affecting value.
The fat slide swap is relatively cheap but it's not always easy to find all the internal slide parts.
I always said the R/Cs should be legitimately collectable!

Mine is dripping with history. Pieces of it probably served all up and down the Ostfront, from Finland to the Caspian. I'm pretty sure the barrel served at Leningrad, the slide was at Moscow, and the frame fought at Stalingrad.

What could be more collectable? Mine is a collection in itself.
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I have the hex pin thingie insert on my P1 but I found that the P1 could handle reduced loads pretty well and still cycle.
Reduced load started out as an alox coated casted bullet but last year turned into a Powder coated load.
I use the same reduced loads when shooting the P38 which comes out only about one or two times a year as part of a theme day and never a full box.
The sights on the P38/P1 make them really great to shoot.
Depending on when it was made you might also have the heavy slide and forged block (early 1970's) on your P1 (see pics). A fat slide and forged block setup is very robust. The hex pin is actually not a "reinforcement" per se, it was added purely to reduce the wear on the aluminum frame caused by the steel lock block when going back into battery. The hex pin actually weakens the frame since it punches a hole through the frame.

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I always said the R/Cs should be legitimately collectable!

Mine is dripping with history. Pieces of it probably served all up and down the Ostfront, from Finland to the Caspian. I'm pretty sure the barrel served at Leningrad, the slide was at Moscow, and the frame fought at Stalingrad.

What could be more collectable? Mine is a collection in itself.
LOL.

Some of the R/C's are all-matching and the only detriment other than the accursed "X" (and maybe dip) might be an incorrect magazine or grips. There were a lot of really rare matching ones that Doug Smith (FRS) imported from Ukraine in the 1990's. He conveniently forgot to import-mark many of them. Then you have the complete mix-masters, which may have passed thru the East German rebuild programs with buffing etc. The R/C's also got broken up as parts sources, and some rare and unusual stuff got lost.
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Curious as to what your P.38 is... if something special you might not want to shoot it, or fit a 70's/80's "fat" slide to it.
The slides (and barrel lock blocks) have a tendency to crack.

Just a few from the Thread of Woe on the P.38 forum. The 480 was a $6k pistol before that fatal shot.
Pic was actually a p38 from the range. I took before i got mine. Mine is actually a P1 early 70s so i dont feel as bad taking it out as much.
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You've got the heavy slide on that one, and probably the forged block.
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