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- Nov 11, 2009
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What a terrific idea. Puts a few teeth into the paper shield.
One of Maryland's R legislators ought to take that out for a run. It would be sweet to watch the majority squirm as they get called out for desk-drawering it.
Oh that would be SO sweet!
- Feb 19, 2013
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I'll be spending a night and day in Chicago on a road trip to Nebraska. What does one do if carrying a pistol? Keeping it in a locked box OK?
i wouldn't. You have no FOPA protection with an overnight stay. Without an IL permit I wouldn't do it.
IL does not recognize any other state's permit.
my .02
IL does not recognize any other state's permit.
my .02
Unfortunately, I have to agree.
Be safe and enjoy the trip, whatever you decide to do.
redeemed.man
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Car carry like SC but only with a home state permit. Not great but could be worse.
^^
Seems like you'll okay in Chicago. For goodness sake, be sure to go to Al's #1 beef.
http://www.alsbeef.com/
better than MD.
imagine that.
imagine that.
- Nov 11, 2009
- 30,925
IANAL, but item 2 is connected (by "and") to number 3. It seems to demand that the person have a permit from his home state. So MD is out, unless you're one of the lucky few.
Biggfoot44
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- Aug 2, 2009
- 33,170
IANAL , but I don't see (3) as overruling (2)(e)(2) above that.
I'm reading that if not posessed of a home state Permit, no statutory rights to carry/ transport, reverting to FOPA.
I see (3) as going beyond FOPA in requiring the pistol specifically to be locked up, instead of certian applications of FOPA where pistol or ammo could be locked.
Could you disregard (3) , and simply transport by applicable FOPA protocols, while travelling through under FOPA ? In principlr yes, but make your personal decisions on juice/ squeeze ratios for volunteering to be test case vs cheap lock on gun case .
I'm reading that if not posessed of a home state Permit, no statutory rights to carry/ transport, reverting to FOPA.
I see (3) as going beyond FOPA in requiring the pistol specifically to be locked up, instead of certian applications of FOPA where pistol or ammo could be locked.
Could you disregard (3) , and simply transport by applicable FOPA protocols, while travelling through under FOPA ? In principlr yes, but make your personal decisions on juice/ squeeze ratios for volunteering to be test case vs cheap lock on gun case .
Illinois CCL instructor here.
If you are allowed to carry a firearm in public under the laws of your home state, you may carry a loaded or unloaded handgun concealed on or about you in a vehicle in Illinois. If you exit the vehicle, the firearm must be enclosed in a case inside a locked vehicle, or in a locked container concealed within the vehicle.
A non-resident without a permit from their home state may TRANSPORT (vs. carry) a firearm in Illinois as long as it is unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm shipping box or other container. The location of ammunition, including ammunition in a loaded magazine is not regulated as long as the firearm is transported lawfully (i. e. unloaded and enclosed in a case).
You can have a loaded, accessible firearm (not encased) in your dwelling. A hotel room qualifies as a dwelling for the duration of your stay. Just be sure to transport your firearm legally (unloaded and enclosed in a case) into and out of your hotel room.
Let me know if you have any more questions.
Also, check out some of the pinned threads at IllinoisCarry.com.
If you are allowed to carry a firearm in public under the laws of your home state, you may carry a loaded or unloaded handgun concealed on or about you in a vehicle in Illinois. If you exit the vehicle, the firearm must be enclosed in a case inside a locked vehicle, or in a locked container concealed within the vehicle.
A non-resident without a permit from their home state may TRANSPORT (vs. carry) a firearm in Illinois as long as it is unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm shipping box or other container. The location of ammunition, including ammunition in a loaded magazine is not regulated as long as the firearm is transported lawfully (i. e. unloaded and enclosed in a case).
You can have a loaded, accessible firearm (not encased) in your dwelling. A hotel room qualifies as a dwelling for the duration of your stay. Just be sure to transport your firearm legally (unloaded and enclosed in a case) into and out of your hotel room.
Let me know if you have any more questions.
Also, check out some of the pinned threads at IllinoisCarry.com.
Here is a pamphlet put out by ISP about transporting your firearms legally in Illinois. Keep in mind that this was published before Concealed Carry was passed.
I do see where I erred in ignoring the word AND in the code, and since that portion only applied to licensees, I apologize. But the further explanation of the TRANSPORT statutes would seem to make storage legal if the firearm is never removed from the trunk, that's not CARRY.
seems legal to me.
But IANAL
Again, apologies for not reading correctly. RIF
seems legal to me.
But IANAL
Again, apologies for not reading correctly. RIF
redeemed.man
Ultimate Member
I made what I believe to be an interesting find on vehicle carry rights for Marylanders visiting Illinois. This info. is linked below direct from the Illinois Bar Association.
It would appear that since Maryland residents without a handgun permit are able to open carry loaded long guns (per AG in Woolard case) that vehicle carry in Illinois is legal for Marylanders. The text of the law addresses the carry of FIREARMS in your home state it does not appear to require that those FIREARMS be handguns.
https://www.isba.org/ibj/2013/12/thenewillinoisconcealedcarrylaw
From the site (CAPITALIZATION ADDED FOR EMPHASIS):
Different treatment for nonresidents
A person who has not resided within Illinois for more than 30 days and resides in another state or territory is subject to slightly different requirements than Illinois residents.17*The Department will compile a list of states that have laws related to firearm ownership, possession, and carrying that are substantially similar to the requirements in Illinois. If a non-resident from an approved state meets the resident qualifications and training requirements, he or she may apply for a non-resident license by submitting an application to the Department.
The law allows nonresidents without an Illinois CCL to transport a concealed handgun in their vehicles as long as they are not prohibited from owning or possessing firearms under federal law and are eligible to carry FIREARMS in their home states. Nonlicensed nonresidents may not leave the vehicle with the concealed firearm and must lock it in the vehicle if they leave the vehicle unattended.
It appears clear and unambiguous to me. IANAL and I do have a MD handgun permit so this helps others more than it would help me.
It would appear that since Maryland residents without a handgun permit are able to open carry loaded long guns (per AG in Woolard case) that vehicle carry in Illinois is legal for Marylanders. The text of the law addresses the carry of FIREARMS in your home state it does not appear to require that those FIREARMS be handguns.
https://www.isba.org/ibj/2013/12/thenewillinoisconcealedcarrylaw
From the site (CAPITALIZATION ADDED FOR EMPHASIS):
Different treatment for nonresidents
A person who has not resided within Illinois for more than 30 days and resides in another state or territory is subject to slightly different requirements than Illinois residents.17*The Department will compile a list of states that have laws related to firearm ownership, possession, and carrying that are substantially similar to the requirements in Illinois. If a non-resident from an approved state meets the resident qualifications and training requirements, he or she may apply for a non-resident license by submitting an application to the Department.
The law allows nonresidents without an Illinois CCL to transport a concealed handgun in their vehicles as long as they are not prohibited from owning or possessing firearms under federal law and are eligible to carry FIREARMS in their home states. Nonlicensed nonresidents may not leave the vehicle with the concealed firearm and must lock it in the vehicle if they leave the vehicle unattended.
It appears clear and unambiguous to me. IANAL and I do have a MD handgun permit so this helps others more than it would help me.
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