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Old November 13th, 2021, 06:07 PM #1
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Matis X trading in aid

Anyone know anything about this? Got an email today about it, seems like it would be a good thing for teaching and practice.
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Old November 13th, 2021, 09:15 PM #2
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I have one. It is quite good for practicing trigger control and grip. My main gripe about it is that it doesn't really understand the idea of an acceptable sight picture; it wants perfection, and that is not always a useful thing in practical shooting. (That is to say, it will punish you for a faster but worse trigger press, even if you would have hit your nominal target - there is no way to specify that you're shooting an A-zone at 7 yards or whatever)
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I really need to get the Mantis hooked up to my Sig and practice using it. I bought it a few months ago when ammo prices were insane but have never used it.

But I do have the app downloaded on my phone if that counts for something!

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I bought one a couple years back and used it a few times. It does what it says, excellent feedback on what’s going on. I love the replay function for each shot where you can see playback of hold, fire and recoil. Very cool.
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I have one. It is quite good for practicing trigger control and grip. My main gripe about it is that it doesn't really understand the idea of an acceptable sight picture; it wants perfection, and that is not always a useful thing in practical shooting. (That is to say, it will punish you for a faster but worse trigger press, even if you would have hit your nominal target - there is no way to specify that you're shooting an A-zone at 7 yards or whatever)
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I bought one a couple years back and used it a few times. It does what it says, excellent feedback on whatís going on. I love the replay function for each shot where you can see playback of hold, fire and recoil. Very cool.
So, it sounds like it is worthwhile for improving your shooting in the long run?
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So, it sounds like it is worthwhile for improving your shooting in the long run?
I think if you stick with it, it will do good things for you. You just need to understand what those good things are.
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I think it is pretty awesome. My two favorite uses are the draw analysis (only on the X10), and using it to evaluate hardware changes like a new trigger.
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So, it sounds like it is worthwhile for improving your shooting in the long run?
I think so. I was impressed. It will definitely nitpick with you. I was looking at one session and saw that my grip was such that, on recoil, the muzzle was forcing down quickly after the shot, like I was over compensating, making it hard to rapidly recover the sight picture. The next session, I eased up a bit and then I was letting it go high. It picks up a lot of stuff and I can see where it might get frustrating trying to “make it happy”. On the other hand, it gives you lots of goals in practice. Neat gizmo though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zCXQMm_A08

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Wish I could chime in on the utility of this training aid but...I just bought a couple of these: one for my wife and one for my son-- for Christmas. I also purchased the AR accessory add on pack for my son. I've never used one-- only watched the videos. My wife is looking forward to breaking it out and working with it. Anything that motivates her to continue to take interest in shooting is a win for me. I have a feeling my son will figure out every little trick you can do with this tool and maximize its capabilities. Hope to give a report in a few weeks.
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I just got my MAX-9 last week. It doesnít have a rail to mount the MantisX. So I designed and printed a magazine floor plate adapter to allow me to mount it on the pistol and still practice. Also allows me to practice drawing from concealment.



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