Reason I ask is, two local PD's near me are doing LiveScan now (vs regular inks). I can't see them declining prints done at there, but am not willing to chance it either....
HOW to APPLY for a MARYLAND Carry Permit
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Reason I ask is, two local PD's near me are doing LiveScan now (vs regular inks). I can't see them declining prints done at there, but am not willing to chance it either....
dlmcbm
Ultimate Member
To everyones defense over this 72 hour rule of fingerprints....
This is what it reads on the MSP handgun permit page that can be found here
http://www.mdsp.org/Organization/SupportServicesBureau/LicensingDivision/HandgunPermit.aspx
YOUR APPLICATION MUST BE ACCEPTED BY THE MARYLAND STATE POLICE WITHIN 30 DAYS OF YOUR FINGERPRINTS BEING OBTAINED BY WAY OF A LIVESCAN OR SIMILAR APPROVED ELECTRONIC FINGERPRINT COLLECTION SYSTEM. FINGERPRINTS REMAIN USABLE FOR 30 DAYS AFTER COLLECTION.
As for the 72 hour rule it comes from here
http://www.mdsp.org/Portals/0/Users/055/55/55/2012 Licensing Division Fingerprint Rules.A.pdf
and reads
EFFECTIVE MARCH 1, 2012, ALL FINGERPRINTS MUST BE SUBMITTED ELECTRONICALLY VIA AN APPROVED SITE OR VENDOR. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION PLEASE USE THE BELOW LINK TO REVIEW THE NEW POLICIES AND PROCEDURES PRESENTED BY THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES AS WELL AS TO LOCATE THE SITES AVAILABLE FOR ELECTRONIC FINGERPRINTING:
http://www.dpscs.state.md.us/publics...gerprint.shtml
APPLICATIONS MUST BE POSTMARKED AS SENT TO THE LICENSING DIVISION OR STAMPED AS DELIVERED TO THE LICENSING DIVISION WITHIN 72 HOURS OF FINGERPRINTS BEING ELECTRONICALLY SUBMITTED. IF YOUR APPLICATION IS NOT SUBMITTED WITHIN 72 HOURS IT MAY BE RETURNED TO THE APPLICANT. This is important as the value of fingerprints submitted decreases over time and become unusable after 30 calendar days.
I can completely understand the confusion and until the MSP put this info on there permit page I don't see how the can not accept apps that don't comply.
This is what it reads on the MSP handgun permit page that can be found here
http://www.mdsp.org/Organization/SupportServicesBureau/LicensingDivision/HandgunPermit.aspx
YOUR APPLICATION MUST BE ACCEPTED BY THE MARYLAND STATE POLICE WITHIN 30 DAYS OF YOUR FINGERPRINTS BEING OBTAINED BY WAY OF A LIVESCAN OR SIMILAR APPROVED ELECTRONIC FINGERPRINT COLLECTION SYSTEM. FINGERPRINTS REMAIN USABLE FOR 30 DAYS AFTER COLLECTION.
As for the 72 hour rule it comes from here
http://www.mdsp.org/Portals/0/Users/055/55/55/2012 Licensing Division Fingerprint Rules.A.pdf
and reads
EFFECTIVE MARCH 1, 2012, ALL FINGERPRINTS MUST BE SUBMITTED ELECTRONICALLY VIA AN APPROVED SITE OR VENDOR. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION PLEASE USE THE BELOW LINK TO REVIEW THE NEW POLICIES AND PROCEDURES PRESENTED BY THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES AS WELL AS TO LOCATE THE SITES AVAILABLE FOR ELECTRONIC FINGERPRINTING:
http://www.dpscs.state.md.us/publics...gerprint.shtml
APPLICATIONS MUST BE POSTMARKED AS SENT TO THE LICENSING DIVISION OR STAMPED AS DELIVERED TO THE LICENSING DIVISION WITHIN 72 HOURS OF FINGERPRINTS BEING ELECTRONICALLY SUBMITTED. IF YOUR APPLICATION IS NOT SUBMITTED WITHIN 72 HOURS IT MAY BE RETURNED TO THE APPLICANT. This is important as the value of fingerprints submitted decreases over time and become unusable after 30 calendar days.
I can completely understand the confusion and until the MSP put this info on there permit page I don't see how the can not accept apps that don't comply.
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BUFF7MM
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Has anyone submitted a cover letter with their application outlining what their envelope contains? I was wondering what everyones thoughts were on doing this.
Your links are broken (looks like you copied them directly from the site, which obfuscates information behind "..." to conserve space).
Mr H
Banana'd
Just got back from the Glen Burnie location, and was in and out in under 10 minutes. Even saw a fellow MDS on his way out.
What surprised me was that, with all the positive perk here about them, he was truly surprised to hear about it when I passed along the praise.
Now to finish my copies, package and send.
MSP has a new application available which shows 2x2 photos are acceptable (courtesy of a post made by Threeband in the Woollard decision thread).
The new application, which does not contain either a date code of a document version number, also requests Cell Phone and Email contact fields for submitted references.
The new application, which does not contain either a date code of a document version number, also requests Cell Phone and Email contact fields for submitted references.
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I can't imagine them NOT accepting the one that is clearly linked on the MSP site (Licensing division link)
Any other differences in these apps?
While I have not gone line-by-line through it (in a class this week), the biggest differences that I noted were:
- 2'x2" photos on a light background are acceptable
- Space is provided for four references (only three are required)
- Cell phone and email address fields have been added to the references
IMO MSP has no legit reason for anemail or cell phone number.
They have my legal residence and my references address and home number.
They have my legal residence and my references address and home number.
dlmcbm
Ultimate Member
Got it fixed. sorry
mrjam2jab
Active Member
Had a LIVESCAN done today at Hagerstown. Several of my fingers were rejected for prints by the device, even after the woman tried 6 times on each one. After 6 times, she didn't go any further and sent the rejected prints to FBI.
I did my very best as did the employee, but my application could be rejected because of this. After all I've put into this, it gives me a sinking feeling.
One thing for sure, I can't change the fingerprints on my hand. I've even had ink prints rejected in the past. But, it's not my fault.
The woman said she's been doing fingerprints for 2 years,
I did my very best as did the employee, but my application could be rejected because of this. After all I've put into this, it gives me a sinking feeling.
One thing for sure, I can't change the fingerprints on my hand. I've even had ink prints rejected in the past. But, it's not my fault.
The woman said she's been doing fingerprints for 2 years,
Fixed - had too many PDF windows open when I copied the link...oops...
The dates are the same on both documents, even though Page 7 (where the date is referenced) actually has changed information on the other link - http://www.msp.maryland.gov/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=T2BCWfpkYTg=&tabid=429&mid=1072.
dlmcbm
Ultimate Member
Your prints are your prints..... How could it reject them as they are what they are.
Does that mean if you commit a crime and leave fingerprints that they will be rejected by the CSI when they lift them?
It rejects them because to the machine, they are "unreadable"
The woman really tried her best to get them as a "Pass," but to no avail on some of them. They do one finger at a time and it gets either a "pass" or "rejected." She tried using "Corn Hushers" lotion to help situation. Device doesn't like dry hands/fingers.
Anyway, I saw "rejected" more times than I wanted.
I can see FBI saying they can't use these. What am I supposed to do about it? Not to mention the $57.00 cost.
Contact MSP?
mrjam2jab
Active Member
I remember reading for another State's process, they will try twice to get legible prints. If they just can't get them they will continue without. They can't deny based on prints they can't read. MD, on the other hand....who knows.
I was told that the FBI can see the rejected fingerprints that she did.
MSP doesn't have my app yet. Sent it today. I'm thinking that MSP has their hands full right now and aren't going to worry about somebody's fingerprints.
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