HOW to APPLY for a MARYLAND Carry Permit

Schipperke · Feb 28, 2017

CypherPunk said:
How do criminals, which are known for their intelligence and substance free lifestyle, know your deposit envelope contains checks, cash or negotiable instruments?

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Same way they know you own a business...

Hall Pass · Feb 28, 2017

boundlessdyad said:
No, although you will hear differently from some who don't have a permit but feel the need to spread their BGOS. Business owners will have no issues getting a permit whether they handle cash or checks.

The key words there being business owner. What if I am just an executive my title and action at the agency; where I am personally responsible for collecting and delivering these checks to the office?

Mark75H · Feb 28, 2017

Hall Pass said:
The key words there being business owner. What if I am just an executive my title and action at the agency; where I am personally responsible for collecting and delivering these checks to the office?

Letter from the owners would be required. Mega restrictions if granted.

Hall Pass · Feb 28, 2017

Mark75H said:
Letter from the owners would be required. Mega restrictions if granted.

such as? business hours, etc......? (my business hours could be from early in the morning to late into the evening.)

Mark75H · Feb 28, 2017

Mark75H said:
Letter from the owners would be required. Mega restrictions if granted.

Hall Pass said:
such as? business hours, etc......? (my business hours could be from early in the morning to late into the evening.)

Such as what ever MSPLD feels like at that moment.

redeemed.man · Feb 28, 2017

Mark75H said:
Such as what ever MSPLD feels like at that moment.

Usually something like: "valid only while actively conducting business as employee of ABC company".

CypherPunk · Feb 28, 2017

Schipperke said:
Same way they know you own a business...

Maryland "Business Owner"

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GlockxRob · Feb 28, 2017

G&S

Here my G&S, What do y'all think?

1. For any lawful purpose;

2. OPM data breach, Due to the recent hacking of the Office of Personnel Management System database, which I am apart of, is currently being sold Online which contains all but not limited to the following information contained on the SF86; A. Current security clearances held, B. current address of work, C. current address of residence, D. physical description as well as immediate family members, E. military history. F. Full name, G. Social Security number, H. date and place of birth, educational background, employment history, personal foreign travel, other information about immediate family as well as business and personal acquaintances and other information used to conduct and adjudicate background investigations. (See documentation attached);

3. Current military member (US Army Officer) See DD-214;

4. Work at fort Belvoir (targeted by: ISIS and other radicalized groups);

5. DOD Secret clearance ;

6. DOJ security clearance (pending adjudication);

7. DOD credentials always on person (PIV/Access card);

8. DOJ credentials always on person (ATF PIV/Access card);

9. Recent attacks on Law-Enforcement Officers and Military members from radicalized groups;

10. lawfully protect family and self outside of my home and while traversing the state of Maryland;

11. Credit cards exceeding $20,000 USD;

Sundazes · Mar 1, 2017

GlockxRob said:
Here my G&S, What do y'all think?

1. For any lawful purpose;

2. OPM data breach, Due to the recent hacking of the Office of Personnel Management System database, which I am apart of, is currently being sold Online which contains all but not limited to the following information contained on the SF86; A. Current security clearances held, B. current address of work, C. current address of residence, D. physical description as well as immediate family members, E. military history. F. Full name, G. Social Security number, H. date and place of birth, educational background, employment history, personal foreign travel, other information about immediate family as well as business and personal acquaintances and other information used to conduct and adjudicate background investigations. (See documentation attached);

3. Current military member (US Army Officer) See DD-214;

4. Work at fort Belvoir (targeted by: ISIS and other radicalized groups);

5. DOD Secret clearance ;

6. DOJ security clearance (pending adjudication);

7. DOD credentials always on person (PIV/Access card);

8. DOJ credentials always on person (ATF PIV/Access card);

9. Recent attacks on Law-Enforcement Officers and Military members from radicalized groups;

10. lawfully protect family and self outside of my home and while traversing the state of Maryland;

11. Credit cards exceeding $20,000 USD;

I dont see it happening. But who knows, you may get lucky. There is thread somewhere where folks with clearances were successful. Some were not. I don't think a secret will be enough and you can't carry on base.
Just curious, what documentation did you provide for the SF86 info? I don't think I would want to send that to the MSP.

GlockxRob · Mar 1, 2017

sundazes said:
I dont see it happening. But who knows, you may get lucky. There is thread somewhere where folks with clearances were successful. Some were not. I don't think a secret will be enough and you can't carry on base.
Just curious, what documentation did you provide for the SF86 info? I don't think I would want to send that to the MSP.

I gave them a copy of a letter I received from OPM which stated that my data was stolen. It has the official letter head and seal of OPM.

I know I cant carry on base (yet) but recently there is a DoD directive that lets military service members request to their Battalion Commander (usually O-5 and above) to carry concealed.

lonzo · Mar 1, 2017

sundazes said:
I dont see it happening. But who knows, you may get lucky. There is thread somewhere where folks with clearances were successful. Some were not. I don't think a secret will be enough and you can't carry on base.
Just curious, what documentation did you provide for the SF86 info? I don't think I would want to send that to the MSP.

you don't, but I do! and He can carry on base, IF he gets permission..I haven't seen/heard anybody yet to get that..but it is possible.

Also, If you can get a letter from your boss, that might help...and MSP doesn't understand that ARMY is PART of the DOD... :sad20:

so mention DOD..

I would leave out #11, they wont care about that.., change #10 to other states, IE Virginia and if you do/did get permission to carry on base or mention you have other CC from other states. Or just leave out #10. If MSP does approve, it'll be with the restriction of "off duty only" tho we all know that you are never off duty..

Good luck!

GlockxRob · Mar 1, 2017

lonzo said:
you don't, but I do! and He can carry on base, IF he gets permission..I haven't seen/heard anybody yet to get that..but it is possible.

Also, If you can get a letter from your boss, that might help...and MSP doesn't understand that ARMY is PART of the DOD... so mention DOD..

I would leave out #11, they wont care about that.., change #10 to other states, IE Virginia and if you do/did get permission to carry on base or mention you have other CC from other states. Or just leave out #10. If MSP does approve, it'll be with the restriction of "off duty only" tho we all know that you are never off duty..

Good luck!

So I had a feeling, if i'm approved, that i'd have "off duty only" as a restriction. Which basically means, while not in uniform. Any time i'm not working in uniform I can carry. I already have an AL CCW. So I can carry legally in both of those states along with the states they have reciprocity with.

BTW, I already mailed in my permit. I was just asking to see what y'all thought.

Hall Pass · Mar 1, 2017

boundlessdyad said:
Usually something like: "valid only while actively conducting business as employee of ABC company".

But I'm not an employee of ABC company.

Schipperke · Mar 1, 2017

GlockxRob said:
Here my G&S, What do y'all think?

1. For any lawful purpose;

2. OPM data breach, Due to the recent hacking of the Office of Personnel Management System database, which I am apart of, is currently being sold Online which contains all but not limited to the following information contained on the SF86; A. Current security clearances held, B. current address of work, C. current address of residence, D. physical description as well as immediate family members, E. military history. F. Full name, G. Social Security number, H. date and place of birth, educational background, employment history, personal foreign travel, other information about immediate family as well as business and personal acquaintances and other information used to conduct and adjudicate background investigations. (See documentation attached);

3. Current military member (US Army Officer) See DD-214;

4. Work at fort Belvoir (targeted by: ISIS and other radicalized groups);

5. DOD Secret clearance ;

6. DOJ security clearance (pending adjudication);

7. DOD credentials always on person (PIV/Access card);

8. DOJ credentials always on person (ATF PIV/Access card);

9. Recent attacks on Law-Enforcement Officers and Military members from radicalized groups;

10. lawfully protect family and self outside of my home and while traversing the state of Maryland;

11. Credit cards exceeding $20,000 USD;

Just start preparing for your appeal too. It's just part of the process now. Word on the street.

GlockxRob · Mar 2, 2017

Schipperke said:
Just start preparing for your appeal too. It's just part of the process now. Word on the street.

Appeal to remove restrictions or to get the permit at all?

Mark75H · Mar 2, 2017

GlockxRob said:
Appeal to remove restrictions or to get the permit at all?

Either. If you are flat out denied you can appeal; if you get restrictions you can appeal.

GlockxRob · Mar 2, 2017

Mark75H said:
Either. If you are flat out denied you can appeal; if you get restrictions you can appeal.

Gotcha. I figured that. Has anything changed under Hogan for G&S policies within the MSP?

Mark75H · Mar 2, 2017

GlockxRob said:
Gotcha. I figured that. Has anything changed under Hogan for G&S policies within the MSP?

Not a peep. MSPLD policies remain unchainged.

Stoveman · Mar 2, 2017

GlockxRob said:
Gotcha. I figured that. Has anything changed under Hogan for G&S policies within the MSP?

Mark75H said:
Not a peep. MSPLD policies remain unchainged.

MSP came out with a new SOP in Sept of '15. No longer do you have to have just police reports of threats against your life, they can also be via third party. And the standard business restriction was eased a bit. Fingerprints are no longer required for renewals.

Definitely not Shall Issue, but definitely changes since Hogan was elected.

GlockxRob · Mar 8, 2017

Will this state ever be shall issue?????

Stoveman said:
MSP came out with a new SOP in Sept of '15. No longer do you have to have just police reports of threats against your life, they can also be via third party. And the standard business restriction was eased a bit. Fingerprints are no longer required for renewals.

Definitely not Shall Issue, but definitely changes since Hogan was elected.

Will this state ever be shall issue????? :fingerscrossed:

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