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Old May 21st, 2019, 10:13 PM #21
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Saw this deal two weeks ago when it was posted and ordered a midlength HBAR barrel assembly, aka complete upreceiver per asembly. Order place May 5th, shipped May 14th, arrived May 17th.

I’d been looking to build a basic no-frills rifle to go on either an 80% or cheap lower with a basic LPK and stock. Zero with M193, check drop/comeups with M855, and then stash/store at a location other than my primary dwelling. A PSA rifle kit build would be perfect for this in like 40 other states, but here the options are HBARs or pistols. The latter will likely be my next stash gun, but the HBAR has the advantage that it can be transferred more easily.

Here are the specs as Del-Ton advertises them:


This evening I did a quick field strip and cursory inspection. Some observations:
  • Barrel tapers quickly just past the chamber and then stays “heavy” until the FSB shoulder
  • Barrel is marked (engraved) DTI 1x9 5.56 Nato
  • 5.56mm chamber checker drops free very easily
  • FSB, barrel and pins were definitely all parked before assembly
  • Bolt is marked DT HPT/MPI
  • Bolt carrier is chrome-lined, AR15 semi-auto style
  • Gas key is chrome-lined, attached with YFS screws
  • Staking job is ok, both sides are different, and I’ll probably re-do it snce I have a 13-year-old MOACKS that doesn’t get enough use
  • Handguard cap is triangular. I will likely swap it out for a round one in case I want to use Magpul MOE SL handguards in the future
  • Handguards are medium thickness, not quite M4, not quite CAR, maybe slightly thicker than A2.
  • A2 flash hider is properly timed with a crush washer
  • Upper is marked M4 above the gas tube, has M4 feed ramp cuts, and white-filled index numbering on the rail

Based solely on what I see out of the box, I’m pretty happy for $220 shipped to my door. I haven’t found a budget option for HBAR uppers/barrels besides Del-Ton. I’d rather have an M16 carrier, so if I order again I'll check the savings for deleting the BCG/CH. There are PSA BCGs for $50 regularly, and Toolcraft and AO Precision for $70 when you look.

Rest of the build will come from my parts boxes, and some lower kits I’ve gotten from PSA. Rear sight will be a take-off MBUS or cut-down carry handle. Maybe a SIG Romeo5.

If you’ve listed after the idea of building a cheap rifle with a PSA Daily Deals Kit, this may be your midlength HBAR alternative.
Consistent with my findings. These are solid uppers for the dollars and I would definitely go Del-ton before PSA.
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I bought one for my first AR and the trigger has a bad reset issue
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Consistent with my findings. These are solid uppers for the dollars
Based on a sample size, unfired, I think so.

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I would definitely go Del-ton before PSA.
I haven't done a detailed study of this, but based on the (literal) tons of PSA uppers/kits out there, if I were asked for a recommendation for a upper/kit purchase by someone in a non-Maryland state, I would have probably said PSA.

What in particular pushes you to Del-Ton vice PSA? Is it the Maryland compliance barrels? Other issues?
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I bought one for my first AR and the trigger has a bad reset issue
Did you resolve it? Was it an improperly installed trigger/hammer spring?
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Did you resolve it? Was it an improperly installed trigger/hammer spring?
Shouldn't be difficult to figure out. Standard AR triggers/hammers are about as simple as they come in a semi auto.
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Shouldn't be difficult to figure out. Standard AR triggers/hammers are about as simple as they come in a semi auto.
Spring legs under vs over pins seems to be a common misinstallation.
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