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Old May 21st, 2019, 04:02 PM #261
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The NJ (Rogers v Grewal) conference happens on 5/23, but we find out the result (order list) on the following tuesday (due to Memorial day). Between 5/24 and when the order list is released we are in a kind of Schroedingers cat situation.


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The NJ (Rogers v Grewal) conference happens on 5/23, but we find out the result (order list) on the following tuesday (due to Memorial day). Between 5/24 and when the order list is released we are in a kind of Schroedingers cat situation.
Whoops, I forgot about Rogers and was only tracking Gould as pending conference.
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The NJ (Rogers v Grewal) conference happens on 5/23, but we find out the result (order list) on the following tuesday (due to Memorial day). Between 5/24 and when the order list is released we are in a kind of Schroedingers cat situation.
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since justice Alito does not take part in the Cert Pool that would point to the weak link being Kennedy or Roberts. With Kennedy retired we will know for sure if it really was Kennedy come Tuesday. if we have Cert on Rogers then I would say confidence is high on a 5-4 in favor . Boy do I have my fingers crossed..
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Stevens said in recent press (as part of his book release) he worked on Kennedy and Thomas in his attempt to change their votes on Heller, with Kennedy getting significant concessions out of Scalia to retain his vote.
I wonder what Thomas' response was to the pressure, given his dissent from denial of cert in other cases and how he wanted McDonald decided under P&I instead of Due Process.

With Thomas penning dissents from denial of cert, and being joined by his colleagues, he's certainly not missing any even if he participates in the cert pool.
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The question becomes who the next Kennedy is, and what the price of the 5th vote.
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The question becomes who the next Kennedy is, and what the price of the 5th vote.
that's a BIG question?
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that's a BIG question?
Which is why we need a replacement for Ginsberg then the fifth vote will cost less because of supply and demand.
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Which is why we need a replacement for Ginsberg then the fifth vote will cost less because of supply and demand.
Need another seat on the court for other reasons too. Thomas is also getting older and could retire in the future under a Democrat (probably not by his choice but because of health reasons that precipitate it). Until we know who's running in 2020 on the Democrat side and how the economy is doing in the run-up to the election, this possibility makes me very nervous.

Dollars to doughnuts that Ginsburg retires in 2020 if a Democrat wins the WH (even if the Republicans maintain marginal control over the Senate - some will bend to a new President's nominee - and simple majority wins). She might even retire if Trump is re-elected. I just don't see her willingly going until after the next election.

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