Mag Double Legality

TDS · Jun 10, 2020

kalister1 said:
Does it come with the new spring you will need? I cannot watch the video at work.

From the Website.
Assembly is easy, you simply remove the baseplates from your magazines and then lock them together with the Mag Double, no tools required. You don’t need to modify the magazines in any way, and you can combine them or revert them back to their normal configuration in under a minute.

Now one Magazine has the opening down and one is up into the rifle. How can it feed all 60? You need to remove the ASSY and re-insert it with the bottom magazine opening facing up.

I guess it doesn't matter how it works since it's illegal for us to own.

TDS · Jun 10, 2020

budman93 said:
I'd say it would not be legal to put it together in state. But it looks pretty terrible. Why would you want that? Probably a great way to make a reliable mag unreliable.

Could you assemble it out of state? How could you possibly prove the location in which it was assembled?

kalister1 · Jun 10, 2020

Pinecone said:
You don't need a new spring. It uses the two springs from the original mags.

I would bet, that there is a spacer that goes between the two springs.

But since it feeds all the rounds without a swap, IMO, it would be illegal.

A jungle clip (or duct tape) would be OK.

OK, Looked it up on my phone. It comes with a plate to lock the 2 springs together.

SkiPatrolDude · Jun 10, 2020

TDS said:
Could you assemble it out of state? How could you possibly prove the location in which it was assembled?

You/they can't. But if somehow they do, you are guilty of a crime. Step 1 is don't incriminate yourself.

As you are quickly learning, MD firearm laws are pretty much the dumbest thing on earth. They do more to criminalize the law abiding citizen than they do to deter crime.

Also - that double magazine is ... no, just..no. The Magpul 60 round drumb is prob the best option for that kind of capacity. You would have to purchase it out of state. They are very reliable, but a b*tch to load or unload. I can load 5 - 30 round magazines in the time it takes to load one of those.

TDS · Jun 10, 2020

SkiPatrolDude said:
You/they can't. But if somehow they do, you are guilty of a crime. Step 1 is don't incriminate yourself.

As you are quickly learning, MD firearm laws are pretty much the dumbest thing on earth. They do more to criminalize the law abiding citizen than they do to deter crime.

Maybe the goal is to make us so confused that we're afraid to do anything. A type of self policing.

jcutonilli · Jun 10, 2020

TDS said:
I guess it doesn't matter how it works since it's illegal for us to own.

TDS said:
Could you assemble it out of state? How could you possibly prove the location in which it was assembled?

It is not illegal to own. MD does not restrict possession, it prohibits manufacturing and transfers. It is illegal to assemble in MD. If you assemble it in a state that allows that, you can then import the assembly into MD and legally possess it.

You don't need to prove the location where it was assembled, the prosecutor would need to do that. Self incrimination is not unusual though.

SkiPatrolDude · Jun 10, 2020

TDS said:
Maybe the goal is to make us so confused that we're afraid to do anything. A type of self policing.

The goal is to deter gun crime. The problem is that the average policy making democrat couldn't tell you one factual thing about firearms, and therefore rely on bad data and unsound logic.

Secondarily, criminals don't give a rats behind about the laws in place. These laws do nothing, and in fact encourage crime due to the general knowledge that the MD populous is large unarmed.

You won't find larger group of folks more concerned with following the law, in general, than on this forum. That said, we toss and turn constantly over the vague, undefined, and largely unenforceable laws that are forced upon us, that are at best open to interpretation.

Ammo Jon · Jun 10, 2020

I’d be more concerned about reliability than legality. Magpul makes a 60 round drum and Surefire makes a 60 and 100 round mag. Now I’m thinking of trying to make a 200 round mag

(Out of state)

dblas · Jun 10, 2020

jcutonilli said:
It is not illegal to own. MD does not restrict possession, it prohibits manufacturing and transfers. It is illegal to assemble in MD. If you assemble it in a state that allows that, you can then import the assembly into MD and legally possess it.

You don't need to prove the location where it was assembled, the prosecutor would need to do that. Self incrimination is not unusual though.

^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^

Beat me to it.

WildWeasel · Jun 10, 2020

Legality aside, the only time I want 2 feet of ammo hanging off my firearm is because its belt fed. Magpul 60s from out of state or bust.

3paul10 · Jun 10, 2020

I'd vote no too.

KevinK · Jun 10, 2020

Just go to the Gettysburg show and buy 60 round mags.

:sad20:

randyho · Jun 10, 2020

SkiPatrolDude said:
Step 1 is don't incriminate yourself.

Yes, please.

SkiPatrolDude said:
As you are quickly learning, MD firearm laws are pretty much the dumbest thing on earth. They do more to criminalize the law abiding citizen than they do to deter crime.

10 years ago I did not believe this. I'm better now.

SkiPatrolDude said:
Also - that double magazine is ... no, just..no. The Magpul 60 round drumb is prob the best option for that kind of capacity. You would have to purchase it out of state. They are very reliable, but a b*tch to load or unload. I can load 5 - 30 round magazines in the time it takes to load one of those.

Where's the *like* button?! I was gonna respond with all of the above #troof #SPDFTW

DutchV · Jun 10, 2020

TDS said:
Could you assemble it out of state? How could you possibly prove the location in which it was assembled?

They probably can't prove anything, but why risk it? Buying or assembling a mag outside of MD is fine. I belong to a couple gun ranges in PA. So any mods like this would, of course, have been done in PA. Anything I buy comes from gunshows or dealers in PA or DE.

And of course, ranges have guest policies, so you might very well visit one yourself.

It's legal to own a larger magazine in MD. You just have to buy it somewhere else.

rbird7282 · Jun 10, 2020

TDS said:
Could you assemble it out of state? How could you possibly prove the location in which it was assembled?

Yes it’s legal. You must buy and assemble it out of state. After you do both of those things, bring it back to Maryland. Perfectly legal.

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rbird7282 · Jun 10, 2020

SkiPatrolDude said:
The goal is to deter gun crime. The problem is that the average policy making democrat couldn't tell you one factual thing about firearms, and therefore rely on bad data and unsound logic.

Secondarily, criminals don't give a rats behind about the laws in place. These laws do nothing, and in fact encourage crime due to the general knowledge that the MD populous is large unarmed.

You won't find larger group of folks more concerned with following the law, in general, than on this forum. That said, we toss and turn constantly over the vague, undefined, and largely unenforceable laws that are forced upon us, that are at best open to interpretation.

The goal has never been to deter gun crime, not ever. The goal is to CONTROL.

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TDS · Jun 10, 2020

rbird7282 said:
The goal has never been to deter gun crime, not ever. The goal is to CONTROL.

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I tend to agree. I"m starting to believe the lawmakers are not well intentioned.

travistheone · Jun 10, 2020

is there a way to legally own? yes. is it something you should waste your time and money on? no

TDS · Jun 10, 2020

DutchV said:
They probably can't prove anything, but why risk it? Buying or assembling a mag outside of MD is fine. I belong to a couple gun ranges in PA. So any mods like this would, of course, have been done in PA. Anything I buy comes from gunshows or dealers in PA or DE.

And of course, ranges have guest policies, so you might very well visit one yourself.

It's legal to own a larger magazine in MD. You just have to buy it somewhere else.

By this logic, why own any magazines larger than 10 rounds? Why risk it if MD has a general 10 round limit?
If you can buy a 30-40 round magazine out of state, why cant I assemble a 60 round magazine out of state as well?

TDS · Jun 10, 2020

travistheone said:
is there a way to legally own? yes. is it something you should waste your time and money on? no

Imagine a scenario where someone has access to a 3D printer and can create this part for 50 cents. Maybe you wouldn't want to waste 2 hours driving to PA to buy an overpriced drum magazine (that may not even be in stock) to bypass a nonsense law.
I consider myself a responsible gun owner and I just want clear answers so I can follow the law.

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