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  • swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,453
    Westminster USA
    Yep, original DC law requires 50 rounds. Also in DCMR.
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    Stoveman

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    Patriot Picket
    Sep 2, 2013
    28,223
    Cuba on the Chesapeake
    I submitted evidence of my Maryland CCW course, which had a 300 round shooting component, with a 25 shot test.

    A Milton Agurs, who appears to me a civilian employee, informed me that my MD course is not sufficient, because the TESTING portion (25 shot test that is reported to MSP), is only 25 rounds. He is suggesting that a test has to be 50 rounds.

    Looks like I will have to take the dame course.



    Odd. They accepted my MD training back in '15 with only a 25 rd course of fire.
     

    songlaw

    Active Member
    Aug 2, 2017
    240
    Clarksville
    Odd. They accepted my MD training back in '15 with only a 25 rd course of fire.

    They said they USED to accept MD, but realized that it was a 25 shot course. The damn MSP cert says that you qualified by hitting "X out of 25."

    It sucks, but I will have to take the course.
     

    songlaw

    Active Member
    Aug 2, 2017
    240
    Clarksville
    Yep, original DC law requires 50 rounds. Also in DCMR.
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    Swinokur, I read that as requiring a course where you shot a minimum of 50 rounds. In my course, we shot hundreds of rounds, but the testing was only for 25 shots. It appears that if we took 50 shots for the testing portion, DC would accept it. Oh, well.
     

    rascal

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 15, 2013
    1,253
    Firearms have to be on the CA, MD or MA handgun Roster

    Just for precision, handguns have to be on one of the three rosters.

    So handgun conceptually is presumed not allowed unless specifically put on a roster.
    But long guns are kind of the opposite: presumed allowed except specific models and attributes.
     

    rascal

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    Feb 15, 2013
    1,253
    That’s why I used commas and the word OR
    I was referring to long guns. Long guns don't need to be on any roster. As far as I can tell you can build your own mini 14 ranch or 10/22 no thumbstock or grip below the action from an 80% and register it in DC if you serialize it as.
     

    rascal

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 15, 2013
    1,253
    Has anyone tried to register a 80%?
    Long gun probably as long as it does not have certain attributes (ie ar-15 from 80%, no; mini 14 probably ok), handgun no. As far as possession of 80% or less of handgun or prohibited long gun legally you maybe ok, BUT they might well put you through the ringer on constructive possession. Ie if you had something like an Ares SCR which is AR-15 upper, AR barrel, at mags and legal in DC, having an 80% or less AR lower possessed within DC at the same time something I would not do. In terms of bringing an 80%t above 80%, technically, if you submitted and passed your own personal build to one of the roster authorities, and also had it serialized, and registered it that might be within the regs
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,453
    Westminster USA
    Just for precision, handguns have to be on one of the three rosters.

    So handgun conceptually is presumed not allowed unless specifically put on a roster.
    But long guns are kind of the opposite: presumed allowed except specific models and attributes.

    You specifically said handguns. Which is why I used the word OR and not AND.

    Just saying

    Originally Posted by swinokur
    Firearms have to be on the CA, MD or MA handgun Roster
     

    rascal

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 15, 2013
    1,253
    You specifically said handguns. Which is why I used the word OR and not AND.

    Just saying

    And you specifically said "firearms." That is why I clarified your statement was correct on handguns but not for long guns.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,453
    Westminster USA
    Oh now I see what you're saying. I used the word firearms, my bad.

    sheepish look on face.

    :bowdown:

    ETA-editing my post
     
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