They're Coming For Your Ghost Guns

WeaponsCollector said:

Too bad I lost all my "ghost guns" in a boating accident.

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owgriffin said:

You hit the nail on the head. People should know by now, if they are tracking the Trump spying debacle, that every phone call, every text message, email, credit card purchase, phone location, car location, etc. are all being recorded and stored at the big data center in Utah. They have been doing that for years, supposedly with protections in place to keep them from being "misused". However, it appears that the government decides what misuse is on a case by case basis. You had better believe, that every purchase of everything you have ever made is recorded and can be retrieved if desired at some point in the future. If they can retrieve the presidents phone calls, they sure as hell are recording yours. Plus the Alexa, etc. is listening to everything that goes on in your house. Your phone is apparently tracking your location at all times, supposedly even if it is turned off (I am not up to speed on that one), but I know that your paths of travel and temporal data are being stored somewhere. It is just a matter of getting the authorization to retrieve it and analyse it. This is not paranoia, but becoming a widely understood fact of life in today's technology world. Just think when you have an electric self driving car? Someone else can just lock the doors and drive you to wherever the round up is happening. Personally I think that is why the big push for self driving cars is happening (other than to reduce the cost of professional drivers). I personally do not know anyone except a couple of millennial democrats that think self driving cars are a good thing, yet, billions are being poured into that industry. The potential for abuse is unbelievable.

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Docster said:

I have no doubt that some of what the everyday citizen says and does is or can be monitored in one way or another. However I often wonder about the volume of that data. The government can't properly staff the Postal Service, any Social Service department, manage the DOD, DOJ and any number of their own agencies or keep the cartels from importing drugs or MS-13 from their illegal activities for starters. How do they manage to effectively store, process and utilize every single call, transaction, Alexa conversation, phone call, credit card transaction, some argue even cash transactions, belch, burp and fart that all 330 million citizens do especially the legal activities? The resources required would be unimaginably staggering and time consuming not to mention unable to be done effectively by anyone in the government or whomever they contract with/oversee.

"They" may want you to think they can, but until I see stronger, credible evidence of the ability to, my paranoia stays in check. History has shown that for every roadblock government up, somebody's found a workaround.

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randomuser said:

If I were to buy one I'd use cash and not put pics of it on the internet. I hear they are really nice.

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boothdoc said:

First rule of fight club! Ghost Gun Club!!

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Docster said:

Think they're getting serious? Must be when this shows up again.....

"Weapons constructed with 3D-printing technology could, as Rose points out, also be made of plastic, allowing them to bypass metal detectors at airports."

https://www.newsweek.com/ghost-gun-laws-untraceable-invisible-1428204?amp=1

Any bets on record sales of Polymer 80 and AR 15 lowers soon?

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K31 said:

According to Juan Williams, TSA "is finding more of these undetectable guns". So, problem solved.

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Cold Steel said:

That's amazing. Coincidentally, I lost all my handguns in a boating accident. It was on a big pontoon boat. Long time ago. Must have been going 30 knots, when I banked right and they just fell off!

It's amazing how many things get lost in boating accidents. In Maryland alone I'm surprised that the lake water levels haven't risen by two inches!

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Fox123 said:

On the internet duh....

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Docster said:

I have no doubt that some of what the everyday citizen says and does is or can be monitored in one way or another. However I often wonder about the volume of that data. The government can't properly staff the Postal Service, any Social Service department, manage the DOD, DOJ and any number of their own agencies or keep the cartels from importing drugs or MS-13 from their illegal activities for starters. How do they manage to effectively store, process and utilize every single call, transaction, Alexa conversation, phone call, credit card transaction, some argue even cash transactions, belch, burp and fart that all 330 million citizens do especially the legal activities? The resources required would be unimaginably staggering and time consuming not to mention unable to be done effectively by anyone in the government or whomever they contract with/oversee.

"They" may want you to think they can, but until I see stronger, credible evidence of the ability to, my paranoia stays in check. History has shown that for every roadblock government up, somebody's found a workaround.

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Mark75H said:

Collecting and storing the data is a hardware issue, not personnel issue. Interpreting the data, that's where the people come in.



If we know about the nose $uch agencee data farm out west ... don't you think there is another bigger one somewhere that's hidden even better?

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lazarus said:

Explains that Bren gun someone pulled out of the Chesapeake a few months ago.

IMHO yeah Huges sucks, but IMHO the bigger tragedy is there are zero exceptions on amnesty for NFA. At a minimum a rolling amnesty for C&R eligible NFA items would be nice or something like that. Show you were unaware in some way (like discovered in your deceased relative’s estate, or you know, literally pulled it out of the bay).

It’s not like the country is going to be awash in machine guns. There are only so many and at this point they are parts of history and there are MANY instances where the rightful owners are totally unaware of owning one because of inheritance or what not.

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echo6mike said:

^^^This right here^^^
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Echo6mike, going mobile...

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But records obtained by The Trace and NBC indicate that the law has had little effect. Compliance with the law is low, and prosecutors have never brought charges under the new statute

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1841DNG said:

If I could not repeal the NFA I would demand the ATF opens a museum to preserve historically significant firearms that end up in their possessions. Destruction of something cool would result in a deportation to North Korea.

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