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Old November 17th, 2019, 08:52 AM #1
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NIB and collectibles

I was looking at colt diamondbacks on GI and many were NIB with big prices, probably never to be shot. I was thinking too bad that every hand gun released by a factory has not been fired multiple times so that it no longer has NIB status and collectors would stop buying them to put away in a safe ( colt even warns buyers in its SAA materials they pack with their guns that shooting will diminish their value). Hand guns ought to be shot, and circulated to other shooters when the owner wants to sell. But shooting a new, collectible, is like tearing up money.
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You can buy fake "new boxes" on ebay
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I purchase firearms to shoot them. I have had a collectable or 2 over the years though.
If it wasn't for those damn boating accidents.
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Old November 17th, 2019, 12:21 PM #4
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Ya know...a lot of "boat accidents" seem to happen! Is it something in the air?
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Ya know...a lot of "boat accidents" seem to happen! Is it something in the air?
Something in the water...,
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Old November 17th, 2019, 12:27 PM #6
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I was looking at colt diamondbacks on GI and many were NIB with big prices, probably never to be shot. I was thinking too bad that every hand gun released by a factory has not been fired multiple times so that it no longer has NIB status and collectors would stop buying them to put away in a safe ( colt even warns buyers in its SAA materials they pack with their guns that shooting will diminish their value). Hand guns ought to be shot, and circulated to other shooters when the owner wants to sell. But shooting a new, collectible, is like tearing up money.
A lot of NIB goes are simply very well cleaned and possibly in an original box or a counterfeit. It can be very difficult to tell them apart but a knowledgeable buyer can tell the differences...and something even then an expert can be fooled. The counterfeiters have gotten pretty good...if there's an easy profit to be made someone will try.

There's a well known counterfeiter in Sparta, TN that sells on Gunbroker and eBay...possible elsewhere. He's been reported many times but it seems to do little good.

BTW...on most Colt revolvers...if you see one that has no burn rings on the face of the cylinder it's been cleaned after-the-fact. Colt would usually not completely clean or clean the burn marks off at all once they were test fired. Sometimes there will be only three burn rings as they would only load every other chamber but sometimes you see more. Many who try and pass off a fired revolver as NIB will scrub the piece as you would like to see...but they don't realize they didn't leave the factory that way.
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There's a well known counterfeiter in Sparta, TN that sells on Gunbroker and eBay...possible elsewhere. He's been reported many times but it seems to do little good.
Isn't it amazing how he finds so many New Old Stock turn-of-the-century Colt boxes in storage somewhere

I actually have an original 1902 Military box and comparing the two is night and day. People still buy those boxes though for hundreds of $$ though.
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I like the modern 1911 "NOS NM barrels", slides or whatever. The parts are pantographed and too heavy a character. As said...easy profit finds the dishonest man interested.
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Old November 19th, 2019, 07:23 PM #9
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I shoot almost everything I buy, including the ones that are uncommon or rare. I've been lucky with unfired or ANIB purchases, but I go in knowing that the story may have stretched by the seller. A well maintained but fired collectible will certainly have diminished value, but I'm willing to take the hit.
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