Supreme Court hears case on PG WWI Memorial

krucam · Feb 28, 2019

A Memorial to World War I Veterans of PG County who Died in Service had a bunch of folks panties in a wad because it is shaped like a cross. They sued in District Court and won. On appeal to CA4 the ruling was affirmed. Onto the Supreme Court...

Oral Arguments were held yesterday at One First in American Legion v American Humanist Ass'n.
https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/the-american-legion-v-american-humanist-association/

I'm completely Atheist but was raised Catholic. I still say Merrry Christmas. I don't find a Cross offensive any more than I find a Civil War Statue offensive. I don't find the Jewish Star of David offensive, I don't see the Islamic Crescent Moon offensive.

I do find offensive any 90+ year Memorial honoring those who died in service to our Country being threatened.

Hope this gets smacked down...
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/cert/17-1717

CrazySanMan · Feb 28, 2019

The SCOTUS signaled they will allow the memorial to stay, saying that even though it's shaped like a cross its purpose and meaning are not religious.

DivingDriver · Feb 28, 2019

Good! Hope that's how they rule.

BlueHeeler · Feb 28, 2019

I grew up near there and even as a 4 year old I knew a memorial called the Peace Cross does not 'advance or inhibit religion'.

It memorializes sacrifice and promotes peace. Duh.

benton0311 · Feb 28, 2019

CrazySanMan said:
The SCOTUS signaled they will allow the memorial to stay, saying that even though it's shaped like a cross its purpose and meaning are not religious.

That was only half the issue. What made this suit even more egregious is that the memorial was erected on private land using private funds. Decades later, the property, which contained the memorial, was annexed by the state for public use.

So not only is there the secular nature of the memorial but the fact that no government had any part in its commissioning or construction.

Jimbob2.0 · Feb 28, 2019

Absolutely. I am all about separating church and state but the historical context needs to be considered.

Erasing history I’m any way is bad

SKIP · Feb 28, 2019

BlueHeeler said:
I grew up near there and even as a 4 year old I knew a memorial called the Peace Cross does not 'advance or inhibit religion'.

It memorializes sacrifice and promotes peace. Duh.

Remember Jerry's Hot Dogs?

Mike · Feb 28, 2019

"Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

As noted in the posts above regarding the history of this memorial, Congress and government had nutt'n to do with "establishing" that memorial.

(yes I know establishment and establishing are different things in the BOR and the way I used it in my post)

BlueHeeler · Feb 28, 2019

SKIP said:
Remember Jerry's Hot Dogs?

Afraid not. That may be before my time.

wilcam47 · Jul 15, 2019

http://theconversation.com/maryland...ross-stands-for-more-than-christianity-119212

Supreme Court hears case on PG WWI Memorial

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