Kasich refuses to ban OC in Cleveland

swinokur · Jul 17, 2016

POP57 said:
Why would the president step in? It's the Republican Convention. I doubt that he would care.

my mistake. you didn't get my sarcasm.

POP57 · Jul 17, 2016

swinokur said:
my mistake. you didn't get my sarcasm.

Nope. Some days I'm sharp. Others not so much. I think we still agree.

swinokur · Jul 17, 2016

danb said:
And here I thought the police were sworn to protect and defend the constitution.

well, not to excuse ignorance, but it was the head of the police union, not the chief.

swinokur · Jul 17, 2016

POP57 said:
Nope. Some days I'm sharp. Others not so much. I think we still agree.

yes we do.

AssMan · Jul 17, 2016

I hope I'm wrong, but I think things are going to go sideways real quick in Cleveland. If there is an exchange of gunfire between the bikers and the leftists, it's law-abiding gun owners that will suffer.

POP57 · Jul 17, 2016

snallygaster said:
I hope I'm wrong, but I think things are going to go sideways real quick in Cleveland. If there is an exchange of gunfire between the bikers and the leftists, it's law-abiding gun owners that will suffer.

I'm also afraid of this. People need to take it down a notch and rethink unless there is an absolute threat.

Bob A · Jul 17, 2016

normbal said:
As others have mentioned, this is all kabuki theater.

You need to look for what the other left hand is doing to subvert our rights.

With so many Soros-funded progressive groups showing up to protest, knowing their penchant for violence, putting armed private citizens within arms reach (pardon the pun) of people who have a proven track record of openly assaulting those considered to be "conservative," how many "plants" will it take (meaning armed progressive terrorists) to start shooting, calling for more SWATZI cops in the streets, national guard presence to restore order and, God forbid, could this lead to the ever-popularly conjectured "martial law declaration" by his lowness, President Obeyme?

Not a stretch. Not paranoia, just observing the pieces coming into play on the gameboard of "Risk: Cleveland edition."

Discuss.

I don't think Soros is paying enough to motivate his bands of tame progressives to deliberately seek to be firearms targets.

This is not to say that they couldn't motivate free-range nutjobs to do so, on their own. The unwashed left seems to have a fair number of home-grown insane, who are easily media-driven to frenzy.

StickShaker · Jul 17, 2016

I can see this as a problem because the bad guys can blend in with the good. Huge mental overload for security and LE. As someone else mentioned I think they should go in a different direction and temporarily allow CC.

danb · Jul 17, 2016

swinokur said:
well, not to excuse ignorance, but it was the head of the police union, not the chief.

Whew, I thought it was someone who represented the police and lobbied for laws, or something. I feel much better knowing it was only the head of the union.

j_h_smith · Jul 17, 2016

I believe I heard that the New Black Panthers are going to protest at the convention and they will be carrying weapons. Then you add in the Bikers and there could be an explosive display like no 4th of July celebration will ever match. You can't suspend the Constitution, so it's going to be a very rough few days for the peace officers assigned to keep the peace.

One question. Does this statute pertain to just Ohio residence or anyone traveling through the state that is not an Ohio resident?

Jim12 · Jul 17, 2016

normbal said:
Well, he WAS the "deciding vote" to get it passed.

I don't think this has anything to do with HIS belief in rule of law, state law, Constitution, anything.

As others have mentioned, this is all kabuki theater.

You need to look for what the other left hand is doing to subvert our rights.

With so many Soros-funded progressive groups showing up to protest, knowing their penchant for violence, putting armed private citizens within arms reach (pardon the pun) of people who have a proven track record of openly assaulting those considered to be "conservative," how many "plants" will it take (meaning armed progressive terrorists) to start shooting, calling for more SWATZI cops in the streets, national guard presence to restore order and, God forbid, could this lead to the ever-popularly conjectured "martial law declaration" by his lowness, President Obeyme?

Not a stretch. Not paranoia, just observing the pieces coming into play on the gameboard of "Risk: Cleveland edition."

Discuss.

This, and the media-frenzied, Leftist nut jobs mentioned above, blending into the crowd, are what worry me, too.

This is an event tied to another - the election - that will have an effect on 2A rights, and they"ll be a topic of substantial discussion. Those who are passionate and unhinged might want to take the opportunity to manufacture an incident or crisis to exploit and present their pov that way instead of the democratic process.

iH8DemLibz · Jul 17, 2016

This is beginning to shape up like first battle of Bull Run.

On the last day of the convention.....

.....the 155th anniversary.

July 21, 1861.

swinokur · Jul 17, 2016

danb said:
Whew, I thought it was someone who represented the police and lobbied for laws, or something. I feel much better knowing it was only the head of the union.

union leaders don't need to know the law.

I'd feel much worse if it was an PD official.

danb · Jul 17, 2016

swinokur said:
union leaders don't need to know the law.

I'd feel much worse if it was an PD official.

But he *is* elected. It would sure be an interesting data point if the NRA graded these elections. I wonder if a bad grade would help or hurt.

gamer_jim · Jul 17, 2016

What does this say about the police union?

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Stoveman · Jul 17, 2016

gamer_jim said:
What does this say about the police union?

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That they are out of touch with their membership.

Not that uncommon with unions, unfortunately.....

Decoy · Jul 18, 2016

t84a said:
Maybe he was/is the right guy.

Nope, he supports AW ban.

swinokur · Jul 18, 2016

Unions are concerned with salaries and WORKING CONDITIONS, which would explain their stance, legal or not. I don't blame the union for trying, because as mentioned, their leaders are elected, and he may be doing what the rank and file wants, legal or not.

jc1240 · Jul 18, 2016

Blacksmith101 said:
The head of the police union said that if Kasich doesn't have the authority he should ask someone who does. I guess the head of the police union never read the Constitution and does not understand the law.

There is "someone" to ask but this convention will be over before a Constitutional Convention can be held.

T'Challa · Jul 18, 2016

t84a said:
Maybe he was/is the right guy.

+1.

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