- Feb 23, 2013
- 1,234
If we get any favorable ruling on this case you can be sure the Democraps will be moving double time on their efforts to pack the court.
NYC CCW case is at SCOTUS!
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Pope414
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Scotus Justices are human and it is in our DNA to remember especially pain and deception.. I know the "right thing" is to say every case is a clean slate but our DNA won`t allow that even if it is subconsciously. One thing for sure Justice Alito has a memory like an elephant... also Italians never forget deception... I come from a long line of Italians & boy can we hold onto something ..LOL
Scotus Justices are human and it is in our DNA to remember especially pain and deception.. I know the "right thing" is to say every case is a clean slate but our DNA won`t allow that even if it is subconsciously. One thing for sure Justice Alito has a memory like an elephant... also Italians never forget deception... I come from a long line of Italians & boy can we hold onto something ..LOL
Well I guess the question would be does Alito vote to hold off and wait for NJ to specifically slap them down or does he go ahead with what’s here now, knowing if NY loses here then NJ is also finished?
Nah, it will be just as satisfying smacking down new York now, and then issuing a per curiam against New Jersey.
jcutonilli
Ultimate Member
- Mar 28, 2013
- 2,474
Are we in the writing a dissent territory yet? Given the 9th circuit Young opinion, I would guess that Thomas would want to respond to that decision.
krucam
Ultimate Member
I personally believe that Young, tied with Peruta, makes for the easier slam-dunk case...
Kharn
Ultimate Member
Roberts saying it's time to watch the world burn with a milquetoast per curiam, resulting in both hindering 2A for another decade and court packing? 
Mike OTDP
Ultimate Member
- Feb 12, 2008
- 3,324
I could see Roberts trying to stall a year or two. Issue a decision after the 2022 midterms...when the odds of a successful court-packing scheme should go to zero.
jcutonilli
Ultimate Member
- Mar 28, 2013
- 2,474
Apparently the Court rejected 4 out of the 5 2A cases that were up for cert (3 felon prohibition, 1 storage related and this case).
https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/2021/04/scotus-gun-watch-week-of-4-19-21/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/politics/second-amendment-supreme-court/index.html
I thought this was not supposed to happen. I thought ACB was going to change everything. Maybe the problem is not the justices. Maybe it might have to do with the arguments.
https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/2021/04/scotus-gun-watch-week-of-4-19-21/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/politics/second-amendment-supreme-court/index.html
I thought this was not supposed to happen. I thought ACB was going to change everything. Maybe the problem is not the justices. Maybe it might have to do with the arguments.
Muleskinner
Ultimate Member
The court has rejected challenges or failed to hear cases more than twice the number of times that they have reversed a gun control law...Putting your hope in the court is a sure fire way to a quick buzzkill. They are never going to preserve the 2A like it should be..it's never going to happen...
E.Shell
Ultimate Member
Watching this crap go back and forth for more than a half century now, I really do have to agree.
If the problem is the arguments, then the problem is those making them because the same 2A attorneys have been making those arguments repeatedly. Who do you think might be an attorney with the appropriate skills, experience, and willingness to try different arguments before SCOTUS on 2A issues? Who would you go to instead of Gura and Clement?
jcutonilli
Ultimate Member
- Mar 28, 2013
- 2,474
I am not sure I would entirely blame the lawyers. In a lot of respect it is the people hiring them. They seem more interested in pushing an agenda than actually winning. When something is not working, you need to adjust the strategy, yet they never do.
That is how I figured it out. I sat in on the Kolbe preliminary injunction thinking that it would be a cakewalk. Turns out we lost. I spent a lot of time researching the issues to figure it out.
The lawyers are not without blame. They could do the same thing, but they seem to present the same arguments again and again.
Muleskinner
Ultimate Member
If the court actually believed the 2A means no infringement then there wouldn't need to be any compelling arguments by pro 2A lawyers. The very fact that pro gun groups have to basically prove infringement shows that SCOTUS has little intention of every upholding our rights to the level the Constitution requires.
fred55
Senior
^^^ This. fred55
Say what?
Kharn
Ultimate Member
He's not a fan of the NRA.
