looking to buy my first rifle,, need help finding/choosing one

Urban1ninja · Aug 24, 2017

I'm looking to purchase my first rifle. I do live in maryland and with all these restrictions on "copycat weapons" / "assault weapons" its hard to find something that i like. what im looking for is a rifle or AR style rifle thats fun to plink with, good to train with, and is not too pricey. I really like the smith and wesson m&p 15 in .223/5.56 but apparently its banned in MD. However the M&P 15 - 22 is completely legal because its rim fire .22 . I also really like the springfield armory m1A but its banned. I also like bull pup style rifles like the streyr aug and IWI Tavor but those are banned.

So I'm looking for a rifle / AR that is chambered in .223/5.56 or .308, has a rail system so i can put an optic and vertical grip, has an adjustable stock, preferably under $800, and of course it needs to be Maryland compliant. If possible i would also like it to be in a flat dark earth or tan color configuration. I know getting mags for it is gonna be a trip, but i can handle that. please post any suggestions or products that you know match this criteria. thank you!

Michigander08 · Aug 24, 2017

I think you should read this thread:

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=214050

Qbeam · Aug 24, 2017

The Tavor is available in a MD configuration. Do you have any firearms background?

Q

Magnumite · Aug 24, 2017

The linked thread is a good one.

Look around for the Del-Ton HBAR. Best bang for the buck and good way to get your feet wet in AR's. They are out there for $400, $25 to ship, $30 ffl fees. $455 in your hands.

I have seen some Windham Armory guns for around $700.
Ruger 556's are less, IIRC.

AlanInSilverSpring · Aug 24, 2017

http://grabagun.com/del-ton-echo-316-m-lok-5-56mm-16-blk.html

Biggfoot44 · Aug 24, 2017

Your upper budget is close to current sale prices on entry .308 AR's .

Do you want a .308 on purpose ? Unless you have strong desire for .308 on purpose, the MDS consensus is to go.223 to start.

Up to $800 budget will give you choices of half dozen or so, starting from Rugers @ $499 on sale, up to Colt on sale. Pick your flavor of choice within that.

S&W does make a Md complient version, but it isn't the one you see in most of the Internet special promotions.

dreadpirate · Aug 24, 2017

Check here with JLowes

http://www.jlowesguns.com/Maryland-Compliant-ARs_c_13.html

ARMatt · Aug 24, 2017

Id say find you one of them colts 6920s that don't come with a hand guard or butt stock that way you can configure it however you want, its your first rifle you're gonna buy a bunch of unnecessary shit for it lol

Which is part of the fun!

dreadpirate · Aug 24, 2017

Also check on this site under industry partners, United Gun Shop, consignment guns, they have a Windham Weaponry for sale for like 795 I think.

https://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=4904959&postcount=640

That AR has a removeable carry handle so you could put an optic on it but I would start with iron sights.

Urban1ninja · Aug 25, 2017

As far as firearms background, always loved guns, had a couple airguns. Went to my first gun show weeks ago and picked up a nice cheap 12 gauge shot gun. Got my hql and bought a Smith and Wesson m&p 2.0 in 9mm.

Are there Black Friday deals for guns? And is that the best time to buy?

HordesOfKailas · Aug 25, 2017

If you're looking for a plinker, I think many would agree that a 10/22 is a solid choice. Ammo is dirt cheap and they're great for honing your shooting skill. I know I love mine.

fidelity · Aug 25, 2017

Urban1ninja said:
...

Are there Black Friday deals for guns? And is that the best time to buy?

AR-10/AR-15 pricing these last several months is the lowest that it's been since mid-2012. In fact, the overall firearms market has a number of "good" deals now relative to the past 5 years.

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robmints · Aug 25, 2017

Urban1ninja said:
As far as firearms background, always loved guns, had a couple airguns. Went to my first gun show weeks ago and picked up a nice cheap 12 gauge shot gun. Got my hql and bought a Smith and Wesson m&p 2.0 in 9mm.

Are there Black Friday deals for guns? And is that the best time to buy?

I'm hearing cheap, $800, and getting vibes that do not equate with semi auto 30 cal. I would stick with a .223/556. Much less expensive to feed. Only other thing I'm thinking is 7.62x39. Vepr or sks are both pretty cool.

Racer Doug14 · Aug 25, 2017

A ton of options out there. Find a local gun shop. There are a bunch of IPs here (industry partners)that would love to help you.

Urban1ninja · Aug 27, 2017

can anyone recommend an HBAR .223/ 5.56 rifle in FDE for around $800 or less?
I would love this https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/169038#reviews but no HBAR....

fidelity · Aug 27, 2017

Look for a MD legal Ruger 5.56 for around $600, and you should be able the change the furniture with Magpul FDE components (butt stock, pistol grip, and handguard) for under $200.

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Biggfoot44 · Aug 27, 2017

Put down your internet, and step away from your copy of Shotgun News . You will just confuse and frustrate yourself.

Now contact the MDS Industry Partners . They are up to speed on MD legal AR's , and will be honored to tell you about your multiple options in your price range .

Urban1ninja · Aug 28, 2017

so i made a decision and im gonna get a Ruger 8511. found a good price on it and im gonna modify it with some FDE magpul furniture.

lkenefic · Aug 29, 2017

fidelity said:
Look for a MD legal Ruger 5.56 for around $600, and you should be able the change the furniture with Magpul FDE components (butt stock, pistol grip, and handguard) for under $200.

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I just got an ad from J&G for a Ruger for $500, but I don't think it was an HBAR

Biggfoot44 · Aug 30, 2017

Put down your J&G sales flyer , and step away .

Seriously , suspend your disbelief, and forget about 21st Century " research" techniques .

HBAR's are a very Maryland centric thing. The demand is primarily in Maryland.

Maryland based dealers ( good ones) understand HBAR , seek them out, and have them in stock . 45 state versions on sale on the internet are meaningless to you .

By all means check with local to you Industry Partners , but being even slightly awake, in recent months JLowes and Gym Ratz have had blowout prices on economical AR HBARs . Make them the first two to check, for baseline price comparisons .

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