If I were being cynical, I'd say a N.C. dealer made a sale that put a few bucks in his pocket, and when the boom drops on the customer, he'll be out of N.C. when it happens, so the dealer won't feel any real blow back...that's if I were being cynical.
Is it LEGAL???
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If I were being cynical, I'd say a N.C. dealer made a sale that put a few bucks in his pocket, and when the boom drops on the customer, he'll be out of N.C. when it happens, so the dealer won't feel any real blow back...that's if I were being cynical.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
You do not need to become an NC resident to purchase.
Your PCS orders make a resident for BATFE purposes.
BUT, you cannot bring in a banned firearm, purchased on or after 10/1/2013 no matter what your residence was when you purchased it.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
Does it have a serial number? Does the manufacturer know when it was produced?
VERY difficult to buy a rifle before it was manufactured.
Oh, and if you get caught, it is a felony, and you will not ever own a firearm again for the rest of your life.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
Yes, you can inherit one.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
They are WRONG.
If you were resident of say TX, stationed in NC, and purchased a non-HBAR in NC, then PCSed to MD you could NOT LEGALLY BRING IT INTO THE STATE.
Even though you were still active duty.
So how could you bring it when you are out of the military??????????
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
Being here TDY would not require registration. But the same thing applies to PCS here, there is no requirement that he establish MD residency as long as he is still in the military.
Either way, he cannot bring it into the state.
No! Remember, my friend, this is Maryland and common sense does NOT apply. They don't care about dimensions. The product description MUST list it as an HBAR or it MUST be stamped HBAR. Your calipers do not matter.
What would be tricky is that the relative purchased it lost 2013 in this hypothetical. The law says simply you can inherit it. I doubt it has been tested if that means you can inherit a rifle that is banned and was purchased and owned out of state post 2013. I doubt that was he legislatures intent to allow that as they won't let people establishing residency in Maryland bring in weapons that are now banned if they legally purchased them elsewhere post 2013.
Not something I would want to test without a clear opinion letter from a Maryland AG or a court ruling.
Yes. If you've got the tax stamp and registered then an SBR is fine and you don't have to abide by the HBAR requirement.
That said, Maryland requires ALL rifles to be 29" overall length at a minimum. Doesn't matter if it is an HBAR or not. That is, what? 3" longer than ATF minimum. Basically it requires a special stock on an AR-15 with a 10.5" barrel to meet MD OAL requirements, or a pinned brake/flash hider on said 10.5" barrel.
Or you could do like a 12" barrel should be long enough. OAL is measured from the longest position with the stock extended, but without a removable muzzle device in place (doesn't matter if you have to use a wrench to take it off. If it isn't pinned and welded, ATF doesn't count it).
Correct, all CENTERFIRE rifles to be 29" OAL minimum. Only thing Maryland cares about with rimfires is that they don't have internal mags over 14 rounds (13?)
They can have any evil features or any size. MD doesn't care. So you can have a rimfire with 28" OAL, a folding stock, a flash suppressor, detachable magazine, semi-auto AND a grenade launcher and you are good to go.
They can have any evil features or any size. MD doesn't care. So you can have a rimfire with 28" OAL, a folding stock, a flash suppressor, detachable magazine, semi-auto AND a grenade launcher and you are good to go.
ARMatt
Active Member
Why is everyone still discussing this lol
I'm active duty military
Resident from TX , on orders here.
If you purchased a non hbar rifle pre fsa2013 you're good to go, purchasing any non hbar rifle after that date and brining it into the state of MD you are committing a crime.
I'm active duty military
Resident from TX , on orders here.
If you purchased a non hbar rifle pre fsa2013 you're good to go, purchasing any non hbar rifle after that date and brining it into the state of MD you are committing a crime.
HordesOfKailas
Still learning
Make it HBAR, observe federal laws (SBR vs pistol and such), no registration of the completed firearm but the lower will be transferred at an FFL, therefore a 4473 will be processed.
Thanks man I appreciate the knowledge. Damn shame these rules are. Besides LWRC, I just am not seeing good to go high level rifles with stock hbars/compliance
Biggfoot44
Ultimate Member
- Aug 2, 2009
- 33,107
Both Engage Armament and Precision Firearms can make you a totally custom rifle as high end on any particular purpose as your heart would desire
You can't even inherit it if it was purchased originally before 2013 as it would be transferred to you at a date later than 2013.
Transferred is the key word here. You personally were not the owner prior to the FSA ban, therefore you can't take possession of it.
What's more, you couldn't inherit a FSA-Banned firearm in state. Just as you can't sell a pre-2013 FSA-Banned firearm to someone in state.
Vile Shadow
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- Feb 28, 2013
- 28,953
Here's the problem I got.
Didn't that line of shit come outta the same outfit that said the "banned" list is only a guide and ain't legally bindin'? Hell, ain't Duffy's still sellin' C308's anyhow?
That's why I question that. Any of us with more than two brain cells to run together know what the hell a damn heavy barrel looks like.
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