Will New Maryland Gun Control Laws Affect C&R Holders?

Spartan1771 · Feb 7, 2013

I just applied for my C&R about two weeks ago, so I’m still waiting to get it, but I have serious concerns about the upcoming Maryland gun control laws (as I’m sure everyone here does). Does anyone know if any of these proposed laws will affect C&R holders? Will we still be able to purchase relic handguns in the same fashion? Will Maryland still honor the C&R program? Or will it follow in the footsteps of states like New Jersey, where you can possess a C&R, but you can’t use it.

Chaunsey · Feb 7, 2013

states do not choose to honor or not honor C&R at all, they are not involved in it, period.

in NJ you cannot use it because certain state laws prevent you from being able to legally receive a firearm directly by mail without going through a dealer, in NJ even BP and antiques are covered by their laws.

nothing at least that ive heard, in the new laws will interfere with us legally getting handguns in the way we do now.

however, if the licensing requirement for ownership goes through, dealers will have to verify that you have an MD license on top of your C&R license. and while that sounds simple enough, my guess is that a lot of out of state dealers might choose not to sell to MD residents directly, much like they do with CA right now.

BlueHeeler · Feb 7, 2013

Chaunsey said:
states do not choose to honor or not honor C&R at all, they are not involved in it, period.

in NJ you cannot use it because certain state laws prevent you from being able to legally receive a firearm directly by mail without going through a dealer, in NJ even BP and antiques are covered by their laws.

nothing at least that ive heard, in the new laws will interfere with us legally getting handguns in the way we do now.

however, if the licensing requirement for ownership goes through, dealers will have to verify that you have an MD license on top of your C&R license. and while that sounds simple enough, my guess is that a lot of out of state dealers might choose not to sell to MD residents directly, much like they do with CA right now.

Well said

In DC, which seems to be the direction of MD proposed law, an FFL03 can order C&R and comply with Federal law. There is an additional ‘state’ law requiring the owner to bring each firearm to the registration office to make sure it complies with local laws and registration.

Maryland law cannot supersede Federal law. However they can place their own hurdles.

Brychan · Feb 7, 2013

The only effect I can see is if the 10 rd magazine passes handguns like the Cz 82 with a 12 rd mag will either have to be shipped with no mag but more likely dealers will tell us that they won't ship those to Md. Like for California

K31 · Feb 8, 2013

From the documents you will get from the ATF:

§ 478.58 State or other law. A license issued under this part confers no right or privilege to conduct business or
activity contrary to State or other law. The holder of such a license is not by reason of the rights and privileges granted
by that license immune from punishment for operating a firearm or ammunition business or activity in violation of the
provisions of any State or other law. Similarly, compliance with the provisions of any State or other law affords no
immunity under Federal law or regulations.

John from MD · Feb 8, 2013

Pretend it will and come to the next rally in Annapolis.

John

MotoJ · Feb 8, 2013

K31 said:
From the documents you will get from the ATF:

Does this mean you'd have to get a handgun license and register a C&R handgun if the new laws pass?

TapRackBang · Feb 8, 2013

Spartan1771 said:
Does anyone know if any of these proposed laws will affect C&R holders?

Yes. It will cause C&R holders who appreciate the Constitution to rally in Annapolis every time one of these bills comes up and send endless of streams of emails, letters and phone calls to legislators until these bills are defeated.

If the domestic enemies of Freedom (often named O'Malley or Frosh) win, it will affect this C&R holder by causing me to leave Maryland forever for the relative Freedom of Pennsylvania.

TapRackBang · Feb 8, 2013

MotoJ said:
Does this mean you'd have to get a handgun license and register a C&R handgun if the new laws pass?

Looks that way:

SB 281, Article 5–117.1.
(B) A PERSON MAY PURCHASE, RENT, OR RECEIVE A HANDGUN ONLY IF
THE PERSON:

(1) POSSESSES A VALID HANDGUN QUALIFICATION LICENSE
ISSUED TO THE PERSON BY THE SECRETARY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS
SECTION; AND
(2) IS NOT OTHERWISE PROHIBITED FROM PURCHASING OR
POSSESSING A HANDGUN UNDER STATE OR FEDERAL LAW.

I'm no politician so I don't speak their corrupted version of English, but I think I "receive" C&R pistols from the UPS man.

Again, that's why we have to fight like hell to keep the usurpers from usurping our rights.

Chaunsey · Feb 8, 2013

TapRackBang said:
Looks that way:

I'm no politician so I don't speak their corrupted version of English, but I think I "receive" C&R pistols from the UPS man.

Again, that's why we have to fight like hell to keep the usurpers from usurping our rights.

it says a person may "purchase, rent, receive" etc, doesnt say possess, so i think pistols already owned would not have to be registered.

not that they care, they already have records for most pistols bought in this state for years.

6pack · Feb 9, 2013

Whether it will or not, O'Malley's group won't stop with modern firearms. Fight these bills everyway you can. Call your reps, vistit them in Annapolis, use the links in my sig and show up at the rallys. It is incredibly improtant to be at them.

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