Mike Smigiel's thoughts on Hogan

rockstarr · Aug 16, 2018

East2West said:
A. You cant call them that, theyre sensitive when you label their undying, unwavering love of oppression.

B. They dont care, because boogeyman > principles.

LOL

Abacab · Aug 16, 2018

dblas said:
As someone that touted Hogan the first time around, my stance has changed to why waste our time. He doesn't supports us, so why should we support him? He has proven that he has no issues with further eroding our rights.

NatBoh said:
Dropping like flies as our community comes to understand that he is gun grabber of only slightly less fervency.

East2West said:
A. You cant call them that, theyre sensitive when you label their undying, unwavering love of oppression.

B. They dont care, because boogeyman > principles.

This. All of it.

Hogan is just a shadowy reflection of the left when it comes to our interests.

Hogan saying, "who are they going to vote for?" is all you need to know. Ehrlich said the same thing.

Jim12 · Aug 17, 2018

Abacab said:
This. All of it.

Hogan is just a shadowy reflection of the left when it comes to our interests.

Hogan saying, "who are they going to vote for?" is all you need to know. Ehrlich said the same thing.

Q: Who, and what followed Ehrlich?

A: Martin O'Malley, and FSA2013.

"Who are they going to vote for" is NOT all you need to know. Not by a long shot.

And, without repeating all the other arguments already posted, we'll also never know how how much damage the anti-Hogan folks here are doing to the rest of the Republican candidates like Craig Wolf and others down ticket in close races -- by suppressing the vote, encouraging people to stay home.

Craig Wolf and local Republicans, pro-2A, are potentially in tight races and will be hurt and potentially lose if and when Republicans "sit out" this fall.

Maybe that's the intention of some here. I'm starting to wonder whether they're just anti-Hogan or anti-Republican.

Occam · Aug 17, 2018

Complacent conservatives not thinking about the bigger political picture and the rest of the races that are impacted by tolerating the socialist candidate for governor are going to do a lot of damage here, and across the country. We'll probably lose congress because of exactly that sort of complacency. Not loving everything about Hogan increases the socialist's odds (and thus also Frosh's) just like feeling unmotivated is going to put Nancy Pelosi right back where she so craves to be.

TexDefender · Aug 17, 2018

Occam said:
Complacent conservatives not thinking about the bigger political picture and the rest of the races that are impacted by tolerating the socialist candidate for governor are going to do a lot of damage here, and across the country. We'll probably lose congress because of exactly that sort of complacency. Not loving everything about Hogan increases the socialist's odds (and thus also Frosh's) just like feeling unmotivated is going to put Nancy Pelosi right back where she so craves to be.

Couldn't agree more.

Vetted84 · Aug 17, 2018

Occam said:
Complacent conservatives not thinking about the bigger political picture and the rest of the races that are impacted by tolerating the socialist candidate for governor are going to do a lot of damage here, and across the country. We'll probably lose congress because of exactly that sort of complacency. Not loving everything about Hogan increases the socialist's odds (and thus also Frosh's) just like feeling unmotivated is going to put Nancy Pelosi right back where she so craves to be.

Complacency in voters comes from complacency in candidates. Hogan has done little to nothing to energize his base in supporting him for a second term.

He takes our votes for granted while kissing the butts of moderate liberals.

Jim12 · Aug 17, 2018

Vetted84 said:
Complacency in voters comes from complacency in candidates. Hogan has done little to nothing to energize his base in supporting him for a second term.

He takes our votes for granted while kissing the butts of moderate liberals.

He does what's necessary to survive politically in liberal Maryland. Whether he agrees with it or not hardly matters. It's what the voters demand.

Conservatives pride themselves in individualism, rationality and self-motivation, and accuse liberals of being emotional and irrational; yet we depend on conservative political leaders to "energize" us to vote? That's hypocrisy.

People who don't vote are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Occam · Aug 17, 2018

Vetted84 said:
Complacency in voters comes from complacency in candidates. Hogan has done little to nothing to energize his base in supporting him for a second term.

He takes our votes for granted while kissing the butts of moderate liberals.

Right, because ANY other posture on his part would guarantee that we get the socialist as governor.

As for complacency: current polls indicate that a lot of people who voted for Trump and are happy with the record performance in the economy are exactly the sort of weak spot we have to worry about. They're busy enjoying life and the prospects of an economy rolling nicely along. The sense of urgency that we felt at the prospect of winding up with President Hillary has died down, and there is the real risk that we'll lose some congressional seats over literally dozens of couldn't-be-troubled-to-vote votes.

TexDefender · Aug 17, 2018

Vetted84 said:
Complacency in voters comes from complacency in candidates. Hogan has done little to nothing to energize his base in supporting him for a second term.

He takes our votes for granted while kissing the butts of moderate liberals.

As an individual most likely. So, why not explain our displeasure as a block. As part of the NRA, MSI, PP, MDS, and constantly flood the office. You don't think "Moms that Demand Action" have that much dedication? That what the left does, it is an ever going email, mail, protesting, lobbying, public appeal and other activities campaign to leverage their cause.

TexDefender · Aug 17, 2018

Occam said:
Right, because ANY other posture on his part would guarantee that we get the socialist as governor.

As for complacency: current polls indicate that a lot of people who voted for Trump and are happy with the record performance in the economy are exactly the sort of weak spot we have to worry about. They're busy enjoying life and the prospects of an economy rolling nicely along. The sense of urgency that we felt at the prospect of winding up with President Hillary has died down, and there is the real risk that we'll lose some congressional seats over literally dozens of couldn't-be-troubled-to-vote votes.

That is why we have to highlight Jealous "Socialist" comments, his lack of budget understanding, the outrageous cost of the his proposed programs.

Jim12 · Aug 17, 2018

Occam said:
Right, because ANY other posture on his part would guarantee that we get the socialist as governor.

As for complacency: current polls indicate that a lot of people who voted for Trump and are happy with the record performance in the economy are exactly the sort of weak spot we have to worry about. They're busy enjoying life and the prospects of an economy rolling nicely along. The sense of urgency that we felt at the prospect of winding up with President Hillary has died down, and there is the real risk that we'll lose some congressional seats over literally dozens of couldn't-be-troubled-to-vote votes.

That worries me. Lots of unemployed, underemployed, and dissatisfied people who voted for Trump are now working and living it up. I hope they're not so complacent that they use "I'm too busy" or "Everything's OK now" as an excuse not to vote for the only people who will prevent DJT's impeachment and reversing all the progress he's made. They should see and understand how fast things can change. And be motivated to make things even better and more enduring -- think like Trump, the builder!

Democracy and freedom require diligence and perseverance.

Boondock Saint · Aug 17, 2018

Jim12 said:
That worries me. Lots of unemployed, underemployed, and dissatisfied people who voted for Trump are now working and living it up. I hope they're not so complacent that they use "I'm too busy" or "Everything's OK now" as an excuse not to vote for the only people who will prevent DJT's impeachment and reversing all the progress he's made. They should see and understand how fast things can change. And be motivated to make things even better and more enduring -- think like Trump, the builder!

Democracy and freedom require diligence and perseverance.

Wholly agreed with the part in bold. Blind adherence to party isn't diligent and guarantees that the only thing that perseveres is party interests, not those of the people.

Racer Doug14 · Aug 17, 2018

I've come to accept that Hogan is not going to help our 2a rights. I'm not a single issue voter. BJs stand on a host of issues is what scares me. Hogan is trying to get Maryland to a pro business footing. More people working and more reasons to stay and pay taxes. More small businesses opening and hiring people.

ezracer · Aug 17, 2018

You guys are scaring me!!! If you don't vote at all.......Jealous wins.

Try to imagine for a moment, Maryland with Jealous at the helm??? Not good.

It's about voter turnout. I know you all have ..."PRINCIPLES".

Well, have FUN with your "PRINCIPLES"..... when Jealous wins.

Sure, you youngin's can move out of state. What about the ones who can't move!!

You need to vote. PERIOD!

NatBoh · Aug 17, 2018

ezracer said:
You guys are scaring me!!! If you don't vote at all.......Jealous wins.

Try to imagine for a moment, Maryland with Jealous at the helm??? Not good.

It's about voter turnout. I know you all have ..."PRINCIPLES".

Well, have FUN with your "PRINCIPLES"..... when Jealous wins.

Sure, you youngin's can move out of state. What about the ones who can't move!!

You need to vote. PERIOD!

Agreed on the neccessity of voting, it just won’t be for either of the gun grabbers.

Patent Guy · Aug 18, 2018

ezracer said:
You guys are scaring me!!! If you don't vote at all.......Jealous wins.

Try to imagine for a moment, Maryland with Jealous at the helm??? Not good.

It's about voter turnout. I know you all have ..."PRINCIPLES".

Well, have FUN with your "PRINCIPLES"..... when Jealous wins.

Sure, you youngin's can move out of state. What about the ones who can't move!!

You need to vote. PERIOD!

Agree. Hogan is the better choice, not ideal, but when judged by his actions, better. If you don’t vote, you don’t matter. Hogan gets my vote.

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Occam · Aug 18, 2018

Patent Guy said:
If you don’t vote, you don’t matter.

Sure you do! You matter to Ben Jealous, because you're not voting against him and for the only person who can beat him. Ben Jealous The Socialist thanks you for any action or inaction that doesn't constructively help his opponent win.

Mark75H · Aug 18, 2018

Just imagine you are voting in the Democratic primary and you have a chance to vote for Democrat Jealous or Democrat Hogan. You should still vote. Giving up your constitutional right is foolish. What other constitutional rights are you willing to give up?

teratos · Aug 18, 2018

Cute but accurate. You aren't choosing where you go to lunch. You are choosing where we all go to lunch. YOU may vote for Taco Bell, but if Burger King wins than WE ALL go to Burger King. Once Burger King wins, you will not get a Big Mac or a chalupa. You will have to choose from the Burger King menu. We all will.

Using Hogan to cockblock Jealous is what this is about.

ezracer · Aug 18, 2018

Mark75H said:
Just imagine you are voting in the Democratic primary and you have a chance to vote for Democrat Jealous or Democrat Hogan. You should still vote. Giving up your constitutional right is foolish. What other constitutional rights are you willing to give up?

Excellent point. If you don't vote for Hogan it will be a vote for Jealous.

Look guys, for the moment, stuff your principles in your back pocket, hold your nose, and vote for Hogan.

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