SAF SUES IN MARYLAND OVER HANDGUN PERMIT DENIAL UPDATED 3-5-12

Afield · Apr 18, 2012

esqappellate said:
Briefing Schedule established in Woollard in the 4th Circuit

Appendix due: 05/29/2012
Opening brief due: 05/29/2012
Response brief due: 07/02/2012

Wow. Rocket docket (ish)!

annihilation-time · Apr 18, 2012

Papi4baby said:
I know it has been said before.

But you guys are great, esqappellate Patrick and Krucam.

Thank you.

You're 100 percent correct. This is the only thread I view on a daily basis, and those guys are a tremendous help when it comes to understanding the case. Thanks guys.

Mr H · Apr 18, 2012

Patrick said:
Curious to see if Gansler asks for an extension. I know its bad form, but so is everything else they have done post-Woollard. Why stop now?

"The court discourages motions for extension of time and grants extensions of the briefing schedule only in extraordinary circumstances upon a showing of good cause"

So...

If Gansler, et al want to tapdance, they'll have to :::ahem::: show G&S???

:lol2:

esqappellate · Apr 18, 2012

annihilation-time said:
You're 100 percent correct. This is the only thread I view on a daily basis, and those guys are a tremendous help when it comes to understanding the case. Thanks guys.

You all are most welcome. Thanks for the kind words. Appreciate it

esqappellate · Apr 18, 2012

jkray said:
Thanks! so the briefs will be in by July, when can we expect to have oral arguments? or am I a little early to be asking this question?

It's fun to speculate. Guesstimate: 3-6 months after the last brief is filed. Closer to 3 than to 6. The Fourth is faster than most circuits.

Threeband · Apr 18, 2012

esqappellate said:
It's fun to speculate. Guesstimate: 3-6 months after the last brief is filed. Closer to 3 than to 6. The Fourth is faster than most circuits.

So maybe about Octoberish to January-like, speculatively guessing?

esqappellate · Apr 18, 2012

Threeband said:
So maybe about Octoberish to January-like, speculatively guessing?

Sounds right. They get their new clerks in the summer. arguments pick up in the fall. Judges take vacations too

esqappellate · Apr 18, 2012

krucam said:
Any voodoo types able to throw a spell of Writer's Block on them?

Enough, for me...

Done!

Mr H · Apr 18, 2012

esqappellate said:
Done!

MY HAND!!! Wrong doll, mister!

esqappellate · Apr 18, 2012

mr h said:
MY HAND!!! Wrong doll, mister!

Oops !!!

jfox · Apr 18, 2012

If MD is returning pre-stay apps, (and only IF that is true)...them my suggestion would be that those whose interviews have not occurred put them off as long as possible. Reschedule even.
You want to keep your app open as long as possible until you see if Legg grants the stay. If he does you'll be in the best shape. But if he doesn't, no harm your in same boat as others who will be going to the board and possible legal action.

Not a lawyer...but seems like the next step in the game.

esqappellate · Apr 18, 2012

jfox said:
If MD is returning pre-stay apps, (and only IF that is true)...them my suggestion would be that those whose interviews have not occurred put them off as long as possible. Reschedule even.
You want to keep your app open as long as possible until you see if Legg grants the stay. If he does you'll be in the best shape. But if he doesn't, no harm your in same boat as others who will be going to the board and possible legal action.

Not a lawyer...but seems like the next step in the game.

You will be in ideal position if your app has not been returned or denied by the time judge Legg lifts the temp stay. If that happens.

gmhowell · Apr 18, 2012

Merlin said:
But here is the thing. Yes, you may only go to the bank once each week. But the bad guy does not know that. Your the business owner and as the business owner the bad guy thinks you always have money.

So if this is true (and it is), Your ALWAYS in greater danger just because your the business owner.

Because the danger is not to the subject of the Kingdom of Maryland, the danger is to the cash money that can be taxed by the Kingdom of Maryland.

2ndCharter · Apr 18, 2012

gmhowell said:
Because the danger is not to the subject of the Kingdom of Maryland, the danger is to the cash money that can be taxed by the Kingdom of Maryland.

Negative. You are not armed to prevent the loss of funds and will be prosecuted if you use force to do so. You are armed because you have a greater risk of harm than the average person (see G&S) due to the frequency and proximity to those funds.

X-Factor · Apr 19, 2012

mr h said:
"The court discourages motions for extension of time and grants extensions of the briefing schedule only in extraordinary circumstances upon a showing of good cause"

So...

If Gansler, et al want to tapdance, they'll have to :::ahem::: show G&S???

Atlasarmory · Apr 19, 2012

States brief is due today correct ?

Patrick · Apr 19, 2012

Yes. History suggests we will see it some time this evening or tomorrow morning.

Inigoes · Apr 19, 2012

Hopefully, the AG turns it in early.

They have a lot of home work to do wrapping up this case, and the circuit.

Patrick · Apr 19, 2012

Hoe many times did you turn in your homework early?

Or at all?

swinokur · Apr 19, 2012

Patrick said:
Hoe many times did you turn in your homework early?

Or at all?

Unfortunately for me, my homework never involved hoes.

:lol2:

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