- Dec 27, 2012
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Buffalo to seize guns from families following owners' funerals
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The more I think about it the more I like the idea of giving my guns away to freedom loving people before I die... sort of a final act of defiance. ... and before you guys start lining up for this great karma... let me state that I hope that it will be several decades from now. ;-)
namrelio
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Guns? I didn't know my dad had guns.
MikeTF
Ultimate Member
Guns? I didn't know my dad had guns.
I'm so happy I live in a state where handguns and 'assault rifles' are not registered. I can literally hand one to my son, wife, friend, etc. and it's theirs.
Emphasis on "permit holders"....aka pistol permit holders.
Not all that bad an idea. Wonder if trusts would shield/ facilitate perpetual ownership?
Not all that bad an idea. Wonder if trusts would shield/ facilitate perpetual ownership?
"Buffalo Police Commissioner Daniel Derrenda said at a press conference last week that the department will be sending people to collect guns that belong to pistol permit holders who had died so "they don't end up in the wrong hands." The department will cross reference pistol permit holders with death records and the guns will be collected when possible, he said"
To me, this is the very definition of "ending up in the wrong hands"
Tell me again how registration doesn't lead to confiscation
To me, this is the very definition of "ending up in the wrong hands"
Tell me again how registration doesn't lead to confiscation
alucard0822
For great Justice
It's almost like they are begging for bad publicity and a lawsuit, at the least it's another prime example of registration = confiscation that could help fighting private transfer bans. Still a good idea for a trusted relative or two to clear out firearms and valuable undeclared heirlooms before the probate process or any inventory begins anyway, this makes doing so more important.
WeaponsCollector
EXTREME GUN OWNER
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only purpose of gun licensing and gun registration is to make gun confiscation possible!
Tyrants can't steal guns that they don't know you have.
Tyrants can't steal guns that they don't know you have.
- Dec 27, 2012
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So if the police are literally going door to door to collect the guns of the deceased, what will they do when the widow says, "officer I have no idea where my husband's guns are"?
Will they get a warrant to search the house, or the children's or grandchildren's homes?
Will the widow face charges if the gun surfaces later?
What's the normal course of action for NFA items after the death of an owner? Assuming its not in a trust what happens?
Will they get a warrant to search the house, or the children's or grandchildren's homes?
Will the widow face charges if the gun surfaces later?
What's the normal course of action for NFA items after the death of an owner? Assuming its not in a trust what happens?
This is not going to end well...
I want to know this too
I want to know how this issue trumps any other property ownership issue. There's laws in each state that delineates who owns property and how that property is distributed (and ownership maintained) upon deaths. NY must have a law that gives the state the property rights of guns exclusively, upon the death of the owner.
Owning a handgun in NY requires a permit. At least they have a rational, repeatable permit process. I know many folks there who have permits.
This new process, while potentially capable of being abused, isn't necessarily bad.
I repeat...AT LEAST THEY HAVE A PROCESS WHERE MANY CITIZEN CAN GET A PERMIT AND CARRY.
How the "authorities" execute and mature this new process will be telling. It certainly does have potential to be done wrong/abusively. Frankly, there's lots of folks I'd prefer not to have/carry guns. I absolutely concur it's a right to own and carry.
Permit holders are vetted. I'm good with that. Whomever stands to inherit should also be vetted...IMO. How this plays out remains to be seen and will almost certainly be subject to close scrutiny now that it's on the table.
This new process, while potentially capable of being abused, isn't necessarily bad.
I repeat...AT LEAST THEY HAVE A PROCESS WHERE MANY CITIZEN CAN GET A PERMIT AND CARRY.
How the "authorities" execute and mature this new process will be telling. It certainly does have potential to be done wrong/abusively. Frankly, there's lots of folks I'd prefer not to have/carry guns. I absolutely concur it's a right to own and carry.
Permit holders are vetted. I'm good with that. Whomever stands to inherit should also be vetted...IMO. How this plays out remains to be seen and will almost certainly be subject to close scrutiny now that it's on the table.
5.56blaster
Ultimate Member
Gee officer I would give you dads guns but we buried them with him.......
*****Ummm, no... They will dig the old guy up! The correct response is: "Gee officer, I would give you dads guns but we *cremated* them with him...."
Mr H
Banana'd
So, no 'tragic boating accidents' in NY???
I was born and raised in Upstate New York. If you want to see how truly twisted we've become as a country, read the replies at the bottom of the article. It will blow you away. There's a comment about how the government GIVES us rights, 'why does an dead man need a gun?', etc. While the conservative responses argue about property rights and current laws protecting the heirs rights to the property, there's MANY, MANY comments such as the above, all based on emotion, nonsense and 'needs of a dead man'.
Absolutely amazing.
Absolutely amazing.
ma_deuce
Ultimate Member
I'm thinking about an old guy I know of in upstate NY with a Luger collection that's worth in the millions of dollars. What happens when he dies? If he's smart, he'll move his Lugers and himself to Florida, right now.
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