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An HQL is required for anyone that wants to PURCHASE a handgun: clowns, priests, CCW holders, Frosh, current regulated firearms owners, Democrats, commies....anyone
For those who may be tuning in late, it should be clarified that the HQL requirement (to purchase or otherwise receive a handgun) does not apply to everyone -- there are three classes of persons who are exempted.

They are: (1) "A licensed firearms manufacturer." (2) "A law enforcement officer or person who is retired in good standing from service with a law enforcement agency . . .", a provision that MSP interprets to apply to "any law enforcement in the United States." (3) "A member or retired member of the armed forces of the United States or the National Guard." (The scope of this exception is discussed in other threads.)

In addition, there are two classes of handguns that SB 281 exempts from the HQL license requirement:

(1) "an antique," which (to over-simplify slightly) refers to firearms manufactured before 1899 OR that do not fire fixed ammunition (e.g., muzzle-loaders). Since such guns are not regulated for transfer purposes in Maryland in the first place, this exception is of no importance.

(2) any handgun "defined in federal law or in determinations published by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives" as a "curio, or relic firearm." Handguns that were manufactured more than 50 years ago are defined in federal law as "curios and relics" (C&R). Also so classified are a small number of models, mostly collector items, manufactured more recently and specifically given C&R status by ATF. This exception to the HQL requirement has nothing whatever to do with the Federal Firearms License type 03 (Collector of Curios & Relics), and should not be confused therewith. Possession or non-possession of an FFL-C&R is entirely irrelevant to the HQL exception for these handguns.
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Old September 13th, 2013, 07:56 AM #12
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Only if they don't vote.
THE DECEASED:

They are able to vote in Baltimore....

They are required to vote in Washington, DC....

They are required to vote multiple times in Chicago.

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For those who may be tuning in late, it should be clarified that the HQL requirement (to purchase or otherwise receive a handgun) does not apply to everyone -- there are three classes of persons who are exempted.

They are: (1) "A licensed firearms manufacturer." (2) "A law enforcement officer or person who is retired in good standing from service with a law enforcement agency . . .", a provision that MSP interprets to apply to "any law enforcement in the United States." (3) "A member or retired member of the armed forces of the United States or the National Guard." (The scope of this exception is discussed in other threads.)

In addition, there are two classes of handguns that SB 281 exempts from the HQL license requirement:

(1) "an antique," which (to over-simplify slightly) refers to firearms manufactured before 1899 OR that do not fire fixed ammunition (e.g., muzzle-loaders). Since such guns are not regulated for transfer purposes in Maryland in the first place, this exception is of no importance.

(2) any handgun "defined in federal law or in determinations published by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives" as a "curio, or relic firearm." Handguns that were manufactured more than 50 years ago are defined in federal law as "curios and relics" (C&R). Also so classified are a small number of models, mostly collector items, manufactured more recently and specifically given C&R status by ATF. This exception to the HQL requirement has nothing whatever to do with the Federal Firearms License type 03 (Collector of Curios & Relics), and should not be confused therewith. Possession or non-possession of an FFL-C&R is entirely irrelevant to the HQL exception for these handguns.
You left out criminals and gang members.... you know, those people created all the "gun violence."
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Guess I misunderstood something. I always thought they said hunters safety counted as the training. According to their site, it does not...
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Guess I misunderstood something. I always thought they said hunters safety counted as the training. According to their site, it does not...
There was some talk of including that specifically in the legislation, but it didn't make it in.

At this point, though, the training requirements are undefined. If you can prove that you already own a regulated firearm in Maryland, the training requirement is waived.
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Guess I misunderstood something. I always thought they said hunters safety counted as the training. According to their site, it does not...
It does. Codified by law, not regulation.

That is one thing the MSP is forced to accept.
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There was some talk of including that specifically in the legislation, but it didn't make it in.

At this point, though, the training requirements are undefined. If you can prove that you already own a regulated firearm in Maryland, the training requirement is waived.
Ok. Was wondering if something changed. Soooo thankful I am retired military. I'm just trying to get all my friends ready for this. They are the ones refusing to register anything. Not going to be good for them when they want to buy a new pistol..
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Don't forget dead illegals too.

Anything less is voter suppression
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Sorry. I read something wrong.
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Sorry. I read something wrong.
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(E) AN APPLICANT FOR A HANDGUN QUALIFICATION LICENSE IS NOT REQUIRED TO COMPLETE A FIREARMS SAFETY TRAINING COURSE UNDER SUBSECTION (C) (D) OF THIS SECTION IF THE APPLICANT:
(1) HAS COMPLETED A CERTIFIED FIREARMS TRAINING COURSE APPROVED BY THE SECRETARY; OR

(2) HAS COMPLETED A COURSE OF INSTRUCTION IN COMPETENCY AND SAFETY IN THE HANDLING OF FIREARMS PRESCRIBED BY THE OF NATURAL RESOURCES UNDER 10301.1 OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES 1 ARTICLE;
http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2013RS/bills/sb/sb0281e.pdf
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